Julie Lederman's 119-109 Card - Was it Fair, Crazy, Corrupt?

Neither fair, nor corrupt or crazy. It was just wide. Lopez won the fight clearly but Loma won a few rounds and he also made a few pretty close. I think 116-112/117-111 are pretty accurate scores here. Depending on how you judge certain things i can see 115-113 or 118-110 too but that's very generous towards either guy. 119-109 is just way too wide. On the other hand it's not even close to be a corrupt card because even the close rounds can go to Lopez. There weren't a lot of dominant Loma rounds.

 

I already said that in the other topic dude. Never used the word corrupt for the Loma fight. Loma won clearly. Everyone who is crying robbery here has no clue about scoring a fight IMO. Depending on how you score certain things 115-113 to 118-110 Lopez are scores i can see. 119-109 is too wide. Even 118-110 is super generous towards Lopz like 115-113 is super generous towards Loma. 116-112/117-111 are accurate here.

 

They were probably outraged because Loma did much better in the second half and it was a close fight there in many rounds and 119-109 suggests a one-sided fight. I wouldn't be outraged by that scorecard but it was definitely a bit too wide and generous. Lopez took some rounds off too in the second half.

 

It’s a red herring that Loma fans glommed onto rather than discuss how their guy got beat.

Put the focus on the outlier scorecard even though the right guy won. Try to divert attention from the outcome and make it about a single judge.

I had it 8-4, but I can get to 11-1 a lot easier than I can get to 7-5 Loma, which is a stretch some have tried to make.

 

Incompetence at the highest level.

 

She got a handsome bribe from someone, probably Bob Arum, who loves doing this to his fighters. He's done it to other great superstar fighters as well, such as Oscar and Pacquiao. He does it for two reasons: to set up a lucrative rematch, and to make sure his fighter doesn't get too big-headed and start asking for too much money.

I totally understand your viewpoint, and the best we can do is say what we think the most likely scenario was. I don't think anyone could watch this fight and not score it close. We're talking about a boxing expert here, not some stupid kid. Julie Lederman knew what she was doing, and the most likely explanation to me is corruption.

 

Pretty much this. You can't have people like this judging pro boxing. Not a single person in the boxing world had that same score. Not one. It's good that the right guy won but what happens next time if it's a close but clear fight or even worse it's that wide for the wrong guy?

 

Incompetence would be the default explanation but as it is boxing it is probably corruption

Lets face it that **** Adelaide Bird is another one who throws in the most ridiculous scorecards time and time again.

I think they like using women as the fans will probably think they are just stupid women who dont know how to score a fight.

Anything wider than 116-112 in that fight for Lopez, is suspicous. As there really isnt much dispute that Loma won at least 4 rounds of the fight from anyone who has watched it. You can also argue on the other hand that Lopez definitely won 6 rounds. So there is really only a couple of swing rounds and the scorecards should be over a narrow spread as a result

 

Lederman seems to score for the aggressor. Lopez wasn't really hitting Loma in the face all that much through the first 6 but won because Loma did even less. On the flip side Loma was the aggressor after the halfway point and actually landing damaging punches, Lopez was even clinching at one point after getting rocked by a flurry. Meanwhile all of those rounds still go to Lopez. I don't understand her scoring criteria. Is it damage? Aggression? **** me I don't know lol.

For the record I think Lopez won and I'm not disputing that, I just can't see him winning more than 8 rounds.