Julie Lederman's 119-109 Card - Was it Fair, Crazy, Corrupt?

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Julie Lederman's 119-109 Card

  1. Fair

    3 vote(s)
    4.3%
  2. Crazy

    30 vote(s)
    43.5%
  3. Corrupt

    36 vote(s)
    52.2%
  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Adalaid Byrd was one of the judges in the previous bout, so I think her just being there rubbed off on Julie Lederman .She is so bad that she can negatively affect other judges just by being present.
     
  2. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too bad they don't have isolated cameras from the point of view of all three judges so we could all see the fight they saw. Very different from the broadcast version methinks.
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    This is where the "judging angle comes into play". Judges don´t have as clear as a view than us on Tv. So a close round can go the other way, dependent on what the judge can actually see.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So Julie gets a second chance but CJ Ross didn't? Why is CJ Ross card or Byrd's card considered "corrupt" but Julie's isn't? Because Julie "comes from a family heavily invested in the lives of the sport"?
     
  5. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Both Ross and Byrd were given multiple second and third chances.

    Both CJ Ross and Byrd had MULTIPLE corrupt cards from boxing to ufc. A simple google search could have told you as much.

    One card can be excused as having a bad day, multiple not so much.
     
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  6. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, the writing was on the wall before the fight even before it happened in the GGG VS CANELO #1.
     
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  7. heizenberg

    heizenberg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I watched and scored this fight and have no idea how she got that score. I thought
    Lomacheko clearly won at least 3 or 4 rounds late in the fight. I thought the fight was very close Lopez was able to win a bunch of the early rounds when both weren't doing much by landing the
    only punches mostly to the body. He took a few of the middle rounds then Loma took over for a bunch of the late rounds pretty much evening the bout up going into the
    last round which was Lopez best round he landed a bunch of good shots rocked Loma and clearly took the round and won the fight
    IMO.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    This is one of my favourite draws of all time

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    We can chalk that judge's card down to ''incompetence'' again too
     
  9. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    BINGO!
    When a fighter lile Loma loses so many rounds in succesion, even qualified so called experts tend to side and give rounds to that ighter only because he fought more competitve in it than the previous multiple rounds he clearly lost.

    I scored it 117-111, and I do think Lederman's card was a little to wide but maybe not outrageously wide considering the three rounds I gave Loma were competively close enough.
    I will say though that if Julie is anything like her dad Harold was in the way she scores rounds, I can see where she would give rounds to a fighter simply for being the fighter going foward and disregarding any of the other scoring criteria like clean punching.
     
  10. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I counted 3 rounds I could say we're clearly for loma. 7 rounds imo were quite clear for Lopez. That leaves 2 toss up rounds. So even if you score both for Lopez that still doesn't get us to 11-1.
     
  11. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    She scored Loma-Grj a draw so maybe she just has it in for Loma.
     
  12. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It wasn't Julie Lederman who scored Loma-GRJ a draw, that was Lisa Giampa. But it is another woman judge who scored it differently than the other judges and most fans.
     
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