Julio Cesar Chavez: 87-0-0

quality post.

 

It's like winning the super bowl 87 times.

 

He is an ATG and a fearless fighter and will be remembered as such. Plenty overrate and underrate him though in my eyes.

 

Hes a pretty solid guy easily competitive or not far behind Pernell Whitaker, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Roberto Duran, Aaron Pryor, and Manny Pacquiao in terms of comparing him to guys around his size.

 

:rofl funny how the haters keep getting own and then comeback with some ******ed **** to say.

 

he had an aura of invincibilty. in his prime, he was a beast knocking people with one shot to the gut. maybe all of it wasnt legit, but, it was impressive to watch

 

That's because your a dumb ass. At 22 your a few years removed from high school.

 

Your a stupid fker, amongst a long line on this website. Whitaker said that to make HIMSELF look good because he fought Chavez.

Whitaker ran around the ring and no offense. Chavez blocked shots with his face. Chavez wouldn't even beat Margarito.

 

This:deal

 

Chavez was voted fighter of the year and best pound for pound fighter numerous times. He was considered #1 pound for pound at least from 90-93, and if everyone at the time wasn't overwhelmed by the phenom that was a young Mike Tyson, you could probably more than make the case for years earlier than that as well.

Some people did jump the gun and start suggesting stupid things like that he was the best fighter since Robinson, but that's just because someone is always dumb enough to jump on the hot fighter and proclaim to be the best ever, only to eat their words and look stupid later.

As for a deeper education on Chavez, the first thing you have to know is that whenever anyone tells you that he was a crude, take 3 to land 1 type fighter, you can immediately disregard their words on that or any other subject, because their knowledge is solely based off their own perceptions and Legendary Nights documentaries. (Similarly, if they say that Marvin Hagler was nothing but an aggressive physical beast, it either means the same things, or that they've only seen Hagler's fights with Hearns, Mugabi and Leonard.) If you want proof of the defensive capabilities of Chavez, just look below:

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Yes, there are a ton of nobodies on his record, there are also a ton of champions who proved their stuff in the ring, everyone from Meldrick Taylor to Roger Mayweather to Edwin Rosario to Jose Luis Ramirez to Juan La Porte to Hector Camacho to Rocky Lockridge.

A lot of those guys and others too like Mario Martinez aren't always thought of as a big deal today because if you didn't live through the time and haven't bothered to research an era, you don't know things like who were the contenders that always gave champions a tough fight and were a good test. 20 years from now there will be people who don't know a ****ing thing about the current era and will think beating guys like Jose Luis Castillo or Zab Judah in their prime was no big deal, because all they'll know is a record posted on some website. Most certainly won't bother to look up the footage an research the fighters. They'll just make up their minds ahead of time and stick to it, no matter how wrong they are.

Chavez did his fighting the old school way, constantly, and against everyone from the best to the worst. I dare anyone to name one person he should have fought and didn't during his prime. (Some matches maybe should have happened sooner, like Camacho, and other rematches like Taylor should have come quicker, I'll give you that.)

Personally, I think he would have had big problems with both of them. An old De La Hoya gave him problems, and a younger, faster DLH would have also been trouble, although Floyd may have been able to counter his way to victory and frustrate Oscar.

Whitaker has all the defensive strength that Floyd does, while being better on offense. Pernell would occasionally throw 100 punches a round, and was a wicked puncher to the body and how he worked the angles.

He'll be remembered as an ATG, but one that mostly got his rep against guys that didn't have a chance against him, old men, and who usually didn't face the bets that was out there.

 

I hated Chavez because he was so damn good.

 

:deal

 

It's cool that Chavez and Tyson went into the IBHOF together. They defined an era, really.

 

This is how I view JCC. Even if about half of his opponents were "cab drivers" as you say, that would leave a record of roughly 43-0, or 44-0 at the time. Because he did not have an amateur career, it is understandable that he would take on lesser opponents at the beginning, but as you point out, he beat most of the top fighters in his weight class at the time.

 

Once again, thanks for keeping on proving me right that YDKSAB.:good