Julio Cesar Chavez Bashes Oscar De La Hoya

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  1. Thread Stealer

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    Chavez can't hide his contempt for De La Hoya
    Sep. 29, 2008
    By Norm Frauenheim
    Special to CBSSports.com

    Julio Cesar Chavez came to endorse a Phoenix law firm. He wound up condemning Oscar De La Hoya.

    Chavez, his dark eyes flashing contempt like sparks off flint, ripped De La Hoya during a news conference at Central Boxing near downtown Phoenix for his old rival's fight against Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6 at Las Vegas' MGM Grand.

    Chavez is baffled by De La Hoya's decision to fight the smaller Pacquiao in a welterweight bout he mocked as an off-the-scale mismatch.

    Yes, Chavez said, Pacquiao, a former junior flyweight, has a chance against the former middleweight "only if De La Hoya doesn't have hands."

    The only hands necessary, perhaps, will be the many needed to count the money De La Hoya-Pacquiao is expected to generate. Chavez mentioned dinero during his rhetorical assault Wednesday just as brokers, Vegas casinos, various other high-rollers and maybe even a few regular fans bought enough tickets for a live gate that will reportedly approach $17 million, boxing's second-biggest ever.

    There is a many-sided temptation, perhaps cynical, to say that Chavez's undisguised contempt is rooted in frustration that still smolders from two losses to De La Hoya so long ago. The Chavez pride, like the scars from 115 fights that crisscross his forehead and frame his eyes, will always be there.

    It just won't let him forget, especially when De La Hoya's box-office punch might be the only punch he still has. Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach says De La Hoya can't pull "the trigger" any more. But he still has a key to the vault, which is one Chavez never had for long, despite his undiminished hold on the Mexican imagination as the proud face of that country's rich ring tradition.

    In Chavez's dismissive tone, there is unmistakable anger that De La Hoya is trespassing on turf he sees as his own. In part, De La Hoya, a Mexican-American and a U.S. gold medalist at the 1992 Olympics, has talked about the December bout as a chance to avenge all the losses Mexicans have suffered at the quick, powerful hands of Pacquiao, a Filipino whose growing collection of nicknames includes Mexicutioner.

    "Por favor," Chavez said in a mocking plea that needed no translation after he was introduced alongside his feared and familiar pose on fight-like posters for Alcock & Associates, a downtown Phoenix firm.

    If De La Hoya wins hands down or with no hands at all, it won't make any difference in Mexico, says Chavez, who believes Pacquiao's go-for-broke style makes the Filipino more popular with Mexican fans anyway.

    "If he thinks beating Pacquiao will make Mexicans love him, he's crazy," said Chavez, whose Scottsdale-based company, Julio Cesar Chavez Enterprises, is planning to open a Phoenix entertainment complex that will include a sports bar.

    Despite Chavez's often rocky rivalry with De La Hoya, he is not alone in his opinion of the Pacquiao bout. As intriguing as it is to some, it's a spectacle that offends the traditionalist in others.

    "It is abusive to all Mexicans," said Chavez, who also called Juan Manuel Marquez's split-decision over Pacquiao in March "a fraud" and said De La Hoya should be fighting Antonio Margarito, who might be headed for a date with Sugar Shane Mosley after Mosley beat Ricardo Mayorga on Saturday night in Carson, Calif.

    The fight will have a Mutt-and-Jeff, David-and-Goliath look, especially when De La Hoya and Pacquiao pose at the weigh-in. If there is one of those predictable stare-downs, Pacquiao will need a step-ladder to look De La Hoya straight in the eye. Without one, he's liable to suffer a crick in his neck from having to look up, up and up. De La Hoya is listed at 5-10½ or four inches taller than a tape that generously puts Pacquiao at 5-6½.

    The weight -- 147 pounds -- also figures to be problematic at opening bell, more than 24 hours after the weigh-in. Pacquiao, who last fought at 135, figures to be a pound or two or three under. De La Hoya, who had a lot of success at junior middleweight (154), figures to be several pounds heavier than the mandated weight.

    Por favor, grumbled Chavez, who also continued to lobby for a De La Hoya fight against his son next year if Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. can get past Matt Vanda on Nov.1 in a rematch of a bout that Mexican fans booed after the young Chavez escaped with a decision last July in Hermosillo.

    "It's like if I fought Mike Tyson," said Chavez, who lost as a welterweight to De La Hoya in 1998 and as a junior-welterweight to him in 1996. "I just don't know what's in this for De La Hoya. He already has money. He has prestige. I don't know what he's thinking."

    Think dinero, Julio. A lot more dinero.
     
  2. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    It defo wasnt a fraud but I thought it was a clear 7-5 victory for Marquez.

    Ps. I dont agree with DLH taking this fight but Im looking forward to it very much for some weird reason.

    :thumbsup
     
  3. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Chavez is exactly right and the man has a right to share his point of view without being questioned.
     
  4. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Please. Chavez became a business man as well when he got older. He is just hating on Dlh...
     
  5. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Alot of boxing insiders are of the same opinion that Chavez holds......and to those that think Chavez is spilling sour grapes, he's always called DLH a great fighter......for the record, Chavez has never questioned that......

    .....but yeah, DLH has a way to make the public either love him or hate him.
    Most casual fans love him, those in the know, dont have such taste for him.
    DLH chosing to fight Pacquiao is a prime example of why many dont like DLH.

    DLH is going to avenge the Mexicans.......that statement is enough to make any Mexican worth his salt, barf!:barf

    One thing is for certain, the DLH-Pacquiao fight is a complete farce of a matchup!
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    When did Chavez ever make it his business to fight fighters several divisions below him?

    Chavez is just saying what most fighters think of the DLH-Pac matchup, but dont have the guts to say.
     
  7. viperguy

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    Pacquiao is just fighting for his doughs. I wouldn't be suprized if Pacuiao got KO by some air on a miss hit.
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    He's a troll. Not worth anyone's time.
     
  9. SHADOW BOX

    SHADOW BOX SHADOW BOX Full Member

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    Chavez is mad because DLH is trying to represent the Mexican people and to avenge their losses. Many Mexicans feel the same way Chavez does. DLH is trying to use every excuse to justify the fight.
     
  10. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's right on all counts.
     
  11. r_9-Ronaldo

    r_9-Ronaldo Shinny Shadez Full Member

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    DLH should be ashamed of being a coward so publicly, Winky Wrights been calling him out his whole career, He ducked Vargas until Tito beat him and he had back problems which showed he was a shadow of himself "i wont fight a mexican" even though he fought cesar chavez twice despite knowing he was old and naturally the smaller guy, now he's publicly ducking margarito
     
  12. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with Chavez here I think he is right but I also think that he just hates DLH
     
  13. BewareofDawg

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  14. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    not bashing, just speaking the truth....
     
  15. PolishPummler

    PolishPummler Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Calling him a middleweight aint the truth.

    Where was his outrage when Oscar fought Hopkins....

    175 vs 130.....