julio cesar chavez or miguel cotto who is the all around better fighter?

I can see some similarities in the two, but Cotto would need to put together a streak of big wins and continue to improve before he can be compared to Chavez. Chavez was such a great fighter and was more skilled all-around.

 

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And all this coming from the guy who loves the term "Floyd boys"... Very, extremely bias for Cotto, this thread topic is.

 

Do you mean that making a thead about a fighter is biased?

 

Saying Cotto is a better all round fighter than Julio Caesar Chavez is!

He classes me as a Floyd boy, but I don't reckon none of my replies or threads about Floyd stoop that low.

COMPARE the two. Don't say "who is the better all round fighter"

 

I still don't get it. How is making a thread about someone being biased?

How does Ray Leonard's resume stack up against Ray Robinson's? Oh no. Am I being biased? But against whom? Ray, or Ray?

Mike Tyson hits harder than Michael Dokes. Am I being biased?

I think the op has confused athleticism with fighterism, as I previously posted. That does not mean I think the op is biased for asking a question.

 

I think you may have mis-read my intention/read too much into it. Its simply semi an attack on Relentless as his favourite word is "Floyd boys"... when he is clearly a bigger "Cotto boy" than any of the Floyd boys around here (based only on my observations).

I mean, doesn't comparing Cotto to Chavez prove the above?

 

Chavez and its easy.

 

It's hard for me to believe anyone out there really believes Cotto is better. He's a damn fine fighter, but in Chavez we're talking ATG. He's just on another level.

 

I think Chavez holds the edge in inside fighting, speed, head movement, defense, faster overall combinations, shorter shots, intelligence, and counter punching. Chavez was more methodical and busier. I wouldn't consider this a factor of overall talent, but Chavez had a better chin.

Cotto is similar to Chavez, but they are different fighters. Cotto is very intelligent too, but it not the inside fighter Chavez was. Cotto is a great body puncher, but probably a little below the level of Chavez. The things Cotto has the edge on is physical strength, punching power, and I think his jab is better. Cotto is methodical, but when he is pressuring, I don't think he is quite as technical. He doesn't move his head as much and seems to be more of a bull.

Those who side with Cotto may bring up his versatility, and by all means, he is very versatile. But people forget that Chavez wasn't some plodding, one-dimensional pressure fighter like Baldomir. He could box and brawl too.
Time will tell whether or not he is actually superior, but as it stands now, I have no problem going with JCC.

If they fought at 140, I would pick Chavez by KO. If they fought at 147, I'd go with Cotto.

 

Chavez head movement was much better, he put more punches together, was more durable......

 

"I think Chavez holds the edge in inside fighting, speed, head movement, defense, faster overall combinations, shorter shots, intelligence, and counter punching. Chavez was more methodical and busier. I wouldn't consider this a factor of overall talent, but Chavez had a better chin.

Cotto is similar to Chavez, but they are different fighters. Cotto is very intelligent too, but it not the inside fighter Chavez was. Cotto is a great body puncher, but probably a little below the level of Chavez. The things Cotto has the edge on is physical strength, punching power, and I think his jab is better. Cotto is methodical, but when he is pressuring, I don't think he is quite as technical. He doesn't move his head as much and seems to be more of a bull.

Those who side with Cotto may bring up his versatility, and by all means, he is very versatile. But people forget that Chavez wasn't some plodding, one-dimensional pressure fighter like Baldomir. He could box and brawl too.
Time will tell whether or not he is actually superior, but as it stands now, I have no problem going with JCC.

If they fought at 140, I would pick Chavez by KO. If they fought at 147, I'd go with Cotto."

Great breakdown. The 147 lb Chavez is clearly not an ideal Chavez, and a fight at this weight would leave him open for a loss to the current version of Cotto (which is an extremely strong fighter). Of course there is no question who is the better fighter. "Floyd or Chavez" is a much more interesting question at this point.

- Jason

 

Chavez. By a landslide.

 

JCC Superstar.