Julio Cesar Chavez' relaxed, thumping blows.

nO, jcc HAD A LOT OF SNAP ON HIS PUNCHES. WATCH HIS TECHNIQUE IN THE 2ND TAYLOR FIGHT, NO DOUBT THE MAN COULD PUNCH

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Not accusing Chavez of anything, but what is beyond question is that the man was ****ing dirty.

His fight with Tszyu is one of the most blatantly dirty desperate attempts by a fighter that I've ever seen.

 

Being dirty and being a dangerous outright cheat are 2 different things

 

Yeah, because smashing a guys balls with your fists, sticking your thumb into his ****ing eye socket and rubbing your laces on his face is just mild and forgivable, right?

 

It is not putting plaster of paris in your wraps. What Chavez did was get away with what he could in the ring. His kind of cheating is an art, a lost one at that, that can be sanctioned against by a referee dq'ing him.

 

Of course you're saying this with a wonderfully detached view of the actual reality that men face in the ring.

There's a difference between hitting and holding and literally beating someone's testicles to paste.

 

That is boxing, and that is why is a referee is the ring, to make sure these things do not happen, and if they are, they are punished.

I am no boxer, but I have been in the ring, and guess what? Legal or illegal, all them punches tend to hurt, but if you can get an advantage by imcompant refereeing, then that is not your fault.

 

No, you get manufactured "incompetent" judging when you're a fighter the likes of JCC, where you can pound away at someone below the belt, hips and balls ahoy without so much as a point being deducted.

It isn't that he skillfully hid his tactics making them laudable somehow (As you've implied) it's that he was allowed to do such things because of the referee, not because of any magical subtle thing he was doing.

 

This thread is pure ****. Research the reactions of his sparring partners to his power. Read what Manny had to say of him even at the end of JCC's career. And the main reason JCC got flack for low blows was the fact his opponents brought their ****ing trunks up around their necks to avoid one of the most potent body attacks the sport has known. Also, the uniquely American, post-Ali asthetic that abhors body punching. JCC hit no more on the hips than Marciano, Basiliio or Joe Frazier to name a few.

 

Marciano fought extremely dirty, so it's all but irrelevant. You're aware of the famous shot with him elbowing Walcott in the face, yeah? It would have made Tyson proud.

 

I always thought something was up with the Taylor fights too.

 

Chavez vs MAG was one of the dirtiest fights Ive seen in recent times.

 

Larry Holmes had one of the best elbows in the business, also.

I took the insinuation of this thread to be that Chavez' gloves were loaded for the Taylor fight. That is a highly irresponsible and libelous accusation. Furthermore, the reason Margarito was caught was that the gloves, especially in Vegas, are examined prefight in the presence of a representative from the other camp. This is really low-rate speculation of the worst kind.

 

Eh, no one's going on any kind of hell bent tirade trying to prove anything. It's just discussion.

Someone is amazed at how Cotto looks after the Margarito fight, Margarito comes under fire... Someone vaugey relates it to the Taylor/JCC fight and mentions a correlation...

Really, just a thought more then a accusation. The sacred cows that can't even be thought of in negative lights bit is a bit irritating.

Long story short, relax.