Julio Cesar Chavez - Ring Interview 'Best I've faced' (March, 17th 2020)

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

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    But it was when he stepped up to lightweight that he feels his star grew exponentially. He said his 11th-round knockout of Puerto Rican power-puncher Edwin Rosario for the WBA belt in 1987 was his finest performance.

    “I had a lot of great fights where at the end of the night I made it look easy,” he said, “but if we’re going to look at one fight that shot me to another level, it was the Edwin Rosario fight.”


    In the end, Chavez (107-6-2, 86 KOs) fought the best fighters at and around his weight yet compiled one of the most remarkable records in boxing history. He took part in 37 world title fights, more than any other man in history.

    “In my day I fought against the best,” he said “I can’t say I wish I had fought Sugar Ray Leonard because he was way above my weight class or Roberto Duran because they were just way above me in weight. I think in my career I took on the best and beat them all.

    “I think my greatest achievement is getting to 90 [fights) as an undefeated fighter. I believe that of all the things I’ve done the fact I could withstand 13 years of the best challenges, that’s my great accomplishment.”

    Chavez attributed his inability to win a 147-pound title to his size.

    “I just have to be honest, welterweight wasn’t my weight. I couldn’t make 147 even if I tried. For De La Hoya (in the second fight) and Whitaker I made 144½ and 142 pounds and I had eaten breakfast that morning.”





    BEST SKILLS


    Meldrick Taylor: He had every skill you need as a fighter, his speed, quickness, power, all you could ask for.

    BEST JAB

    Oscar De La Hoya: Because he was tall and used it to mark his range.

    BEST DEFENSE

    Pernell Whitaker: He was very elusive, and although I thought he was a dirty fighter, beyond that he was just hard to find and especially hard to hit.

    BEST CHIN

    Hector Camacho Sr. And Edwin Rosario: I threw everything at them and they kept coming.

    BEST PUNCHER

    Rosario: Anywhere he hit me it hurt. Frankie Randall was also a hard puncher. [Against Rosario] it was my youth, it was the fact I was in my prime, it all helped me get through that fight.

    FASTEST HANDS

    Taylor: It was definitely Meldrick Taylor. I would land one shot and I would take four in return. He was quick. More than anything it was the fact he had real quick hands. By the time I landed one real power shot I was taking five, six in return. They weren’t hard shots, they weren’t power shots, but I couldn’t get in my range, I couldn’t get established. In that fight I made a big mistake, which was trying to fight at his pace. That’s why down the stretch I was exhausted, I was completely exhausted. I found a way to do it but I was done.

    FASTEST FEET

    Camacho: It was Hector “Macho” Camacho who had the best footwork. He just dominated the way he walked around the ring. He knew where he was moving, he wouldn’t let you find him. And more than anything he was a marathon man the way I see it. He just was not there to be hit. But in the ninth round he stood and fought, so he was a macho man because he did stand there and took the shots.

    SMARTEST

    Whitaker: He was very intelligent. And then there was Oscar De La Hoya, who knew how to use his advantage in height and his distance. I think he was very intelligent in the ring.

    STRONGEST

    Jose Luis Ramirez: He was a southpaw who not only took a good shot but he gave a good shot. The fact he could land a punch and hurt you and take a punch and not be hurt, that was his greatest virtue.

    BEST OVERALL

    Taylor: I faced everybody. If you look at my record, all the fights I had, I had 37 world championship fights and I didn’t hand pick any opponents. But if I was to look at the best overall fighter, it would have to be Meldrick Taylor.

    https://www.ringtv.com/594717-best-i-faced-julio-cesar-chavez/
     
  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Glad he gave Taylor a ton of credit.
     
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  3. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Nice to see for once one of these that seems honest.
     
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  4. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Complete bull****. Always always a fighter will give more credit to another fighter that he defeated but never to a guy that did beat him. Whitaker was better than taylor and chavez. Julio cesar chavez is overrated . yes people will get mad but i don't give a crap about it. Roberto Duran would **** him up. And mayweather jr would beat his crap anyday
     
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  5. Eddie Ezzard

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    Me too. Great fighter to watch. Gave his all and paid dearly but I still love watching him.
     
  6. Eddie Ezzard

    Eddie Ezzard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not complete bull**** at all. Maybe he recognises that the Chavez who Taylor faced was much better than the one Whitaker faced so Taylor's performance, while losing, may have been better than Whitaker's. Thought about that? I'll take his word for it over yours, at any rate. You know. Given that he was there, and all.

    And no. Duran would not have ***ed him up. I think Duran would have beaten him but Chavez was a better fighter than de Jesus and Buchanan and they gave Duran hell. And if you seriously think Mayweather has an easy fight then good luck with that opinion.
     
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  7. Seamus

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    Had Julio stayed at 135 we would be talking about a Top 3 Lightweight. He was that spectacular at that weight. Just moved up too quickly.

    Truth.
     
  8. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    Chavez was a monster at 130 to 135.
    I reckon he was handful for any fighter at those weights.
    Cheers.
     
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  9. Mario040481

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    Maybe someone didn't read the article but he totally implied that Taylor wore his a$s out and was outpunching him by leagues in that first fight, he was standing in there and hitting him, Whitaker wasn't fighting him like that. Different fights, one grueling and painful and one he couldn't find the guy. Different fights. Compubox has Taylor hitting Chavez 457 times in 12 rds and Whitaker 311 in 12 rds. Obviously very different fights. I think it is a pretty fair statement by Julio and Taylor more than earned and more than deserves the credit he was just given. Had Julio given it all to Whitaker you may have just complained about how Taylor didn't get it?. Also, while the Whitaker decision was derided in the states, many in England, and likely some other Eurolands felt it to be a fair enough decision. Different strokes. Last, if a former sparring partner of Chavez convinced the majority of the world he defeated Mayweather Jr, I wouldn't completely count Julio out in a match with him
     
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  10. WAR01

    WAR01 In the 7.2% Full Member

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    No mention of Tszyus power?
    Silly talk!
     
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  11. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A surprisingly candid seeming list. I'm a little surprised not to see Tszyu make an appearance but JCC was the one getting punched in the mouth so I'll take his word for it.
     
  12. Mike Gould

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    I'm more disappointed he didn't mention Frankie Randall in at least one category. Hard luck Fankie gave JCC his first loss and was gyped in the rematch by a technical cut decision in a fight that seemed to be going Frankie's way. He was barely alluded to in this article. JCC didn't seem to want to acknowledge him or give him any credit at all.
     
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  13. Mike Gould

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    I stand corrected. He gave a passing mention to Randall in the Best Puncher category.
     
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  14. Mario040481

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    I use to often think the same as some here as regards fighters rarely seem to credit fighters they lose to later on in their careers and afterwards. Always wondered what that was about. Coincidentally, some months back a ran across the "10 Best..." that was done by Erik Morales about 10ish years ago and he provided an insight into that thinking and mindset that I think kinda covers a lot of it. Basically he says that fighters don't tend to look at this question in the same manner as a fan would. Saying that as the fighter in question, in his heart he knew, obviously, the nights he was gonna go into the ring as prepared as he could possibly be, he knew when he did, or didn't take shortcuts in training camp, whether he ditched out for a few days or a week, or if he trained like a monk. So he knew that when he went in at the peak of his condition , if his opponent gave him a hard time when he was the best he could have possibly been that night, it made that opponent in his eyes someone to think of as a very difficult and good/great fighter. He also said that this is the way MANY top fighters think, and I kinda got the idea that he felt that many of them HAD to think this way because, these guys have to have a reason, outside of he money of course, to attempt to get back in the ring after a loss or after a bad performance, they have to be able to convince themselves that it wont be a bad night again. Over years you learn, or you teach yourself to learn; what it takes you personally, mentally wise, to get back in and fight another man like this in front of the world. During his career Morales was always coming off like he rode the highest horse, him against the boxing world, what many would see as an highly egotistical narcissist. But I think that was who HE needed to be to do what he did in his career. They way he talks and acts today is about as far away from the personality he showed in his career. Honestly, doesn't that sound like a LOT of former big time fighters, once it is no longer necessary for them to be "that" guy they were?
    He is asked who his toughest opponent is
    “If you’re talking about the toughest opponent I’ve faced, to be honest, his name was Erik Morales,” he said in all seriousness. “When I did things the right way and had proper training, boxing was easy for me, but all too often I did not do that. So, as you know, I had a lot of struggles.

    “Honestly, I had too many tough fights to say one man was tougher than all the rest. I know fans want me to say that it was either Barrera or Pacquiao, but I don’t see it that way. That’s not how a fighter views things. There are fighters who people have forgotten about or never knew that were the toughest fights, the biggest fights for me at the time I fought them.
    , https://www.ringtv.com/124261-erik-morales-best-ive-faced/
     
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  15. young griffo

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    Chavez seems pretty gracious to me in this. And unlike all the others who say the guy they beat was the best fighter they faced I actually believe Julio when he says Taylor.

    Chavez was in his physical prime when he met Taylor and was a consensus top 1-3 fighter in the world at that point. And Taylor gave him absolute hell to an extent that no one else had until that point in his career. I can understand why Chavez was so impressed because Taylor was magnificent that fight and it’s a testament to Chavez’s greatness that he hung in there and got the win (lucky though it may be) but as he said he had to go to the absolute brink to pull it off.

    Chavez knew he wasn’t big enough to compete at 147 and wasn’t at his best when Whitaker was robbed against him. Likewise he was too small and old when De La Hoya beat him but he still gave both men credit for aspects of their game (which plenty of others in these articles won’t do). And for the other losses (ie Tszyu) Chavez was a shell and I don’t blame him for not mentioning them.

    Chavez from 87-92 was one of the best fighters I’ve ever seen full stop. Just a superb, complete fighter and one of my absolute favourites to watch.