Julio Cesar Chavez vs Henry Armstrong

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  1. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Armstrong close UD in a great fight.
     
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  2. louis54

    louis54 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Armstrong has to be favored
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Julio had a much tighter, quicker to the mark and efficient inside game, where this would be fought. Julio was insanely accurate and damaging at 130 and 135. At 140, it becomes a slightly slower, more strategic affair. But at all weights, I am taking Julio by at least 2 points over 15... at least 3 at 135.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I'd never noticed :D
     
  5. LoadedGlove

    LoadedGlove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Light Welter didn't exist in Armstrong's day but may have been his best weight. At his peak, Hank could go flat out for15 rounds and that was against Welters.
    At 10 stone, I don't know what any Fighter could have done with him. Mayweather could stick and run I guess but Chavez ? He can't get close enough to get his punches away so he starts winging in mid range and gets countered to pieces.
    Styles and fights right ? Great though he was, Chavez doesn't have a prayer against Armstrong at Light Welter. Near shutout on points.
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough one! I'd sell everything I have with the exception of my children ( But maybe the wife lol) to see this one....
    The ultimate pressure fighter against one of the best boxer-punchers in history. Very few fighters in history could break down their opponents as well as Chavez, in his prime he was extraordinary with a patient yet aggressive attack, cutting of the ring, trapping his opponents, forcing them to try too fight back, then he would punish them with precise head and body punching, grinding them down until they fall down, or the ref stops the fight. He was a beautiful text book fighter. Not the fastest, or hardest punching, but was very good in all phases of fighting.
    Compare this with H Armstrong. Perpetual motion, a buzz saw, who wasn't as asteically pleasing as Chavez, but may have been even more effective than him on what each fighter did best.
    Chavez wouldn't need to look for Armstrong. In fact, after a few rds, he probably would try to fight more from a distance, he'd realize Armstrong was consistently beating him to the punch in close. But Armstrong, wouldn't let him create distance, and Chavez wasn't Camacho as far as moving away from his opponents and creating space.
    This is where Armstrong wins this fight. His head stuck to Chavez's chest or shoulders , crowding, pushing ,pulling, holding and hitting, meanwhile landing short, hard, shots inside and from unusual angles.
    Nothing that would seriously hurt Chavez, but it would frustate him, and make him desperate. With his desperation he would become more aggressive. But that would create more opportunities for Armstrong, and those short punches.
    It would be a very close fight at the end. But Armstrong's stifling tactics and attack would get him a hard fought decision at the end.. At all 3 weight classes.