Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Howard Davis Jr.

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  1. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Who wins at 135 lbs and why? When I saw how Taylor totally dominated JCC, and how Meldrick struggled with the talented and underrated Davis Jr., than I think it´s not unlogical to pick Howard here, your thaughts?
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Chavez would have torn Davis' guts out within 10 rounds. It would have been similar to Starling-Breland I, only with more conclusive brutality. Chavez would have introduced Davis to his full arsenal of body punches, pressure, and intimidation. Chavez would have loved every minute of it, and would have tortured poor Howard sadistically for a few rounds before mercifully ending it in round 8.
     
  3. Luigi1985

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    :lol:


    Seems to be that you also totally overrate JCC. I love JCC, because of his heart, and his attitude, but I´m realistic, he could be outboxed by skilled and fast fighters with a chin (like Davis Jr. in this case), I´m not saying JCC would lose this matchup surely, but if you really think it would be a walk in the park, than I can´t take you serious when it comes to JCC...
     
  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Taylor was still relatively green during the Davis fight though. That Taylor was a different animal to the one that beat McGirt and nearly beat Chavez.

    Whilst I think Davis might hold his own for 4 or 5 rounds against Chavez, by the end of the fight he will be battered and bruised from body shots, and merely looking to survive. Chavez with a 9-3, 10-2 type decision. He might force a stoppage in the late rounds, and I'd probably favour him to in a 15 round affair.
     
  5. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As much as I like Howard, I think Julio batters him en route to an easy 12 round decision.
     
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    Julio's Pressure was Educated, he was relaxed and would cut down the ring, disecting it into smaller and smaller operating quadrants, his reeling in of the very speedy John Duplesis was a Prime Example, Meldrick Taylor was able to through solid combinations to enable him spin away, but Howards more simplistic, (But Visually Stylish) Jab and Move will not present Julio with the same Problems, Certainly Howard is not going give Julio any reason to be cautious, I can see Julio, taking a relaxed attitude to the "hunt the Howards" early rounds, but come midway, Howard may find that he has put 12 rounds of energerial eggs into a six rounds basket, i can see a couple of left hooks to the body sinking Howard perhaps around the eighth, but if Julio attacks Howard like he did Rasario..then Howard may not see the half way stage..?
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    No sir, I do not overrate Chavez, in fact, I hardly ever have a positive post regarding him, but this one is really a no-brainer. Davis never really cut the mustard, you know, and despite the gold medal and all that jazz, remember, he lost a 15 round decision to JIM WATT(!!!!) He would have caved in like a ton of bricks against the relentless pressure that Chavez would offer. He didn't have the strength or the chin to withstand that kind of hell Chavez would have inflicted on him. No punch worth speaking of to make Julio respect him, and no chin. He would have taken maybe the first two rounds before the inevitable happened to him. You should refence some of my other posts about Chavez before you say I overestimate him. Far from it, but come on, in this one you have to be objective about it, and realize that Howard Davis would have been one of his highlight performances.
     
  9. red cobra

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    Howard Davis was, for the record, decked twice by Edwin Rosario, but ko'd by Dana Rosenblatt in 2 and Buddy McGirt in 1, which indicates that he did not have the chin to withstand a Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
  10. Luigi1985

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    Sorry, you´re right, I didn´t remember posts from you were you was on JCC´s nuts or so. But look, I also favour JCC, but IMO JCC is pretty overrated head-to-head, and I simply wanted to see with this matchup ( I wanted to know with your predictions how you see Julio) how much. Some think he would easily destroy Davis Jr. or so, but I think Howard slightly outpoints JCC until the middlerounds, where Howard get´s TKO´d...
     
  11. TBooze

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    When did Taylor dominate Chavez? If you are talking about March 17th 1990, I suggest you watch the fight again, because a pint and a half of his own blood swallowed and a broken eye orbital says Taylor did not dominate.;)

    As for the thread, an 80-81 Davis would give Chavez a bit of sorting out to do, but JC Superstar would figure out Howard by the middle rounds, and win on a late stoppage IMO.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Luigi1985, we're on the exact same page! That's exactly my call, I just think that when Chavez finally got to him, it would be kind of brutal. I respected JCC, but I've always thought that Duran, Buchanan, Sal Sanchez, and several others would have beaten him. He was never one of my favorites, and an arrogant a__hole to boot!
     
  13. Luigi1985

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    How did you score the 1st fight? Hey, wait, I just hope now you´re trying to be sarcastic...
     
  14. TBooze

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    Taylor was winning, but only just going into the last round. 7-4 would of been fair. But that did matter in the end, because Chavez stopped him.
     
  15. Luigi1985

    Luigi1985 Cane Corso Full Member

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    Sorry, but that have to be your worst post ever. Taylor schooled JCC. Taylor´s face looked worse, but that´s not important. When you jab Antuofermo with some feather-fisted jabs, he immediately bleeds, and when you throw right hand after right hand in Ali´s face, you won´t see it usually, that doesn´t say much, btw, Julio´s punches were much harder so that they do more facial damage is logical. But no way that the fight was so close like you scored it, you seriously need to watch it again...