Jumps/jump squats better than lifting weights

I agree. I do this weekly.
Lifting weights by comparison, only twice a month.

I do multiple variations of jumps/jump squats/jump lunges.
Combined with a weekly plyometric routine. This contributes to real, functional athleticism.

The weights I lift for upper body (arms/chest/shoulders) are mostly for looks.

 

Jump squats and plyometrics are great for increasing RFD in people with a strength base. For everybody else getting strong is going to be far more beneficial for developing RFD. If you just do jump squats while someone else does heavy squats then the heavy squatter is going to be faster and more powerful when jumping/running/throwing. There are many studies on this, this is very basic and here you have people doing things without investigating and talking about 'functional'. It isn't hard to find these things out.

 

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It's almost ridiculous sometimes on here...

 

Ah, the manual says it so it must be right eh! :bbb

 

Don't be naughty he's always right. Works with athletes you see.. :deal

 

And Elite ones at that. :good

 

Care to differ then?

 

What works for one doesn't work for everyone and younger kids probably shouldn't be lifting heavy weights.

 

So as ever you don't have an actual response then?

In terms of plyometrics/dynamic training and building absolute strength this type of training DOES have pretty much the same effect on everyone, hence the reason power lifters have dynamic and max effort days.

 

That was my response, so what you talking about now? All I'm saying is you don't need weights. Especially not heavy weights in younger kids.

 

Actually you started with this -

When asked "Care to differ then?", basically asking you to explain why you said this, you replied with -

Which is ignorant opinion at best. So I replied with the following -

BTW, nobody ever said you need weight training.

 

I think you read into things too much! Or for some reason want to show yourself as being more knowledgable.
How was my response ignorant? People get caught up in a response and forget about the actual thread title or what the OP said.
I was referring to not needing weights with my responses and agreeing with the OP that younger kids shouldn't be lifting weights, especially heavy.

Other posters have stated how heavy weights or heavy squats (assuming using weights) are better than variations of jump squats/lunges for strength.

I'm clearly no expert but imo you try things and see what works for you with or without weights.

 

It's basic physics (creating impulse to overcome inertia) and there's a mountain of research on the topic, on all sorts of populations. If you want to be skeptical just because I'm saying it then you are a certified moron.

 

Lol how do you do heavy squats without using weights? Jump squats aren't a strength exercise. Maybe try and least understand the difference between strength and power, and how they are related.
It isn't a case of one or the other as so many simple minds around here seem to think, periodisation is a must if you actually want to improve anything. That means during one month absolute strength is going to be the focus, and then closer to competition you're going to be more focused on bilateral and unilateral plyometrics, to convert your strength into power and transfer it to your sport.
This isn't guess work, it's been heavily studied in the scientific literature and is based on our understanding of physiology and biomechanics. And it comes from applied examples with the best athletes in the world in many sports, starting from many decades ago.

And then we have the geniuses on here saying "Try it for yourself and see if it works, weights or no weights". I'd like to see someone who doesn't get stronger and more powerful from lifting weights like an athlete, they'd be the first and they'd be defying countless scientific laws.

What is the point of trying this or that out with no concept of progression or what physiological response you're actually trying to develop? That's mindless training and if you decide one thing works for you and that's all you need then you're going to plateau very soon and stay average. All the while time is slipping away when you could have been improving through cycles of phase potentiation.

This is why boxing is so focused on 'natural talent', unless you have it the people around you are going to be too dumb to help you improve physically. At least professionalism in terms of weight training/periodisation seems to be more common at the top levels of the sport, but I feel sorry for the beginners and the weekend warriors who are never going to really improve due to antiquated views on fundamental physical development.