Jumps/jump squats better than lifting weights

I'm sceptical of you not physics.

 

What I'm saying is basic physics, as I said if you're skeptical because it's coming from me then you are as stupid as I think you are. Right is right, put your emotions away you idiot.
If you're skeptical of anything I say then do your research (look at methodology from peer reviewed scientific literature relevant to the populations we're talking about, listen to experts working in the field). I am an expert in the field and you still don't want to listen because you don't like me personally, that's what makes you dumb and impairs your ability to learn. Too much pride to use logic because of your emotions, you operate on a low level.

 

Whatever mate tldr. :thumbsup

 

Pretty much sums up your problem in life.

 

Still tldr.

Could you try making your posts shorter still..

 

Mate, we aren't all elite athlete's training for a specific sport.
Believe it or not some people do excercise to keep fit and healthy, they enjoy playing sport or boxing.
This is a forum where people like boxing, who either box or don't.

The only other thing I have to say is :
You can and will get stronger and mor powerful without using weights, your body is a weight. Calisthenics
There was 1 more thing that you chose to ignore and that was kids aged 10-15.

 

+1

 

rampant = owned.

 

As always.

 

:good

 

Owned! Lmao.

Bath day today kids ready for school tomorrow. :good

 

It's easter hols mate, school's out. That'll learn ya. Owned! :roll:

 

I don't agree that periodization is the best route for a boxer to take. Often, traditional periodization results in building additional muscle mass, especially if your program is predicated around the barbell back squat.

The first period of a typical periodization plan is increasing hypertrophy, and then it culminates with a period of exhausting, 1-3 rep cycles, before tapering off and allowing the athlete to rest.

Boxers don't have any room for hypertrophy or excessive lactic acid build up, especially older athletes, whose bodies cannot handle the intensity. There are other programs out there that are more suitable for boxers and that aren't predicated around the back squat.

And yes, there are more suitable exercises for boxers than the back squat. Also, I disagree with jumping. I wouldn't jump at all. This is especially true if you're an older athlete who definitely should not be doing any jumping. There are other ways to produce power than jumping. Ironically, a weightless jump actually produces more power than a weighted jump, and it's better on your knees.

Dealt with probably means well, (or actually not really, he's kind of an *******), but it seems like his training is stuck in the bigger, faster, stronger mentality. While that mentality is still the status quo, things are beginning to adapt to ensure athletes are building proper functional movement patters. Additionally, the focus is starting to shift towards longevity and performance, especially considering how much money teams spend on their athletes. Athletes are investments. You want them to last as long as possible.

At the end of the day, natural talent, heart, and mental fortitude is what gets you to the place that you want to be, and weightlifting should emphasize these attributes without breaking you down. A guy that can squat more than you but isn't as naturally talented is not going to be a better athlete than you. So where should the focus be? On increasing strength, absolutely. But the method that you get there is perhaps more important than getting there.

 

What kind of balance between strength & plyometric training would you recommend for someone that just likes to workout(boxing) and wouldn't be interested in periodization?

 

So much nonsense here I don't know where to start.
Hypertrophy is just one name for that preparation subphase, the more appropriate name is the anatomical adaptation phase. It's for increasing pennation angle, inducing favorable muscle architecture adaptations to set up phase potentiation for later stages. You don't have to put on a single kg in that phase, it's often used for losing weight as this stage of training is when favourable body composition changes occur due to the nature of training. I won't get into why that's important because frankly you're an idiot and I don't really care about educating you, what I'm typing here is for anybody else.

Anybody who uses the word 'functional' is a hack who has no idea. It's a fitness guru buzzword that means nothing.

You have no idea about basic physiology if you think 'lactic acid buildup is bad for boxers'. What do you think happens during every single training session you knucklehead?

You have no idea about periodisation (what it is), every athlete uses it whether they know it or not. If you vary your workout intensity, have rest periods and you include supplementary exercises then you are using periodisation. Probably very poorly if you're not actually aware of it and planning it.

Expressing power and developing power are two very different things. Someone who has developed power using weights is going to express far greater power during an unweighted jump than someone who hasn't developed power under load.

Don't talk about athletes, you don't know anything about the industry or what it takes to develop them physically.

What on earth is 'natural talent'? And why on earth wouldn't a guy with 'natural talent' benefit further from lifting weights?

Athletes train for performance, not longevity. But hey, being stronger and more powerful is also very beneficial for longevity as a side effect. It's hard to believe that there are still idiots around who believe that weights are dangerous in anyway when used properly.

I don't know if you mean well or not, but everybody here is stupider for having read your nonsense.