June 3, 2009 - when David Haye lost all credibility

Because its taking the ****, Haye agreed to everything and Wlad risks it all by taking the Chisora fight, but this is Hayes fault yeah? If Wlad has to pull out Haye is left with no opponent until probably september/october.

But defend your boy till the very end he can do no wrong in your eyes lets face it.

 

Without any pain killers, that is the badass wlad is, now wlad wants to kick the **** out 2 dudes asses in 2 month period, that is ****en bad,,,,,,,an hayes that puss:| is afraid to fight a guy with 8 months off to train, an the guy he fought only threw one punch in two rounds,:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

At least this hasn't been beaten to death already. I can endure more of this for the time being.

 

Why we talking about 2009, we in 2011 now, and someone and his name is Wlad is ****ing around.

 

At what cost? Wasted valuable time: $$$$.
I think this is Wlad's version of a payback. It eventually will get made.

 

Nope I agree with blaming Wlad for taking a tune-up (just like I was blaming Haye for fighting Harrison instead of the brothers last year).

Haye gambled for 2 years, trying to be smug, smart and trying to make everything fit his personal retirement scheme perfectly. You don't think Wlad has enough personal reason and hatred towards Haye to try to derail Haye's plans? Let's not underestimate the amount of bad blood between the two.

 

It won't get made. Haye says he's done with it (i.e. he doesn't want it) and he's talking about retirement . The dude's ***** made, he doesn't want to box the best, he wants the east money.

Haye fans said the Harrison fight would never happen...open your eyes people.

 

A month later he pulled out of a fight with Vitali to fight Valuev.

This after claiming his whole purpose of going up to heavyweight was to face and beat the Klits.

Even had the gall to donn that shirt with him holding the decapitated heads of the Klits over their fallen bodies, which now seems quite Mundine-ish and cringeworthy.

People conveniently choose to forget those set of circumstances when blaming Wlad for what's happening now.

 

Come on. Be objective man, it's not hard. He never pulled out. You can't pull out of a fight if you're not even contracted to fight in the first place.

And everyone knows that fighting Valuev made business sense. Get a belt and more leverage at the Klits' negotiating table. You think he's be getting 50:50 with no options if he wasn't the champion. Like it or not that move made a Haye - Wlad fight even bigger (if it ever happens).

So many agendas . . .

 

I agree with you, hayes made the right choice. But that is just what hayes is about, he always makes the right choice, or atleast good business moves. An right now wlad knows, hayes complaining is just that business move, an i see wlad just blowing him off, an fighting in april. Besides ruiz, hayes hasn't had a great time up at the heavywieghts, an now he got to fight chaguev, who if not shot could give hayes a fight, so wlad just laughing to himself, knowing hayes chin, an fear of big men like valuev, which seem like in there fight, is the reason why hayes will more then likly just wait to fight wlad, like a good little ***** waiting for her man to come home.

An if hayes wait on him, that will tell me alot about what hayes really believes of himself at heavweight......Getting knocked down by barrett:yep:yep

 

The thing that pissed me off with Haye the most wasn't necessarily the fact that he ran to take on Valuev but it was the fact that he ran to Valuev under the implied promise that he will just quickly snatch the belt from the Russian Giant and then he'd immediately fight a Klitschko afterwards -- because Haye said with the WBA belt they'd finally give him an equal 50-50 no options treatment at the negotiating table.

But Haye knew that was never his true intention.

He wanted a bunch of low-risk paydays first. Which again is fine but it wasn't what he promised us. And instead of saying "Look guys, first I want to enjoy being a belt-holder, I want to fight a bunch of mediocre contenders first before I risk my belt agains the brothers" he kept blaming the oh-so-greedy Klitschkos were forcing him to fight Ruiz and Harrison. Which sounds great in theory but Haye and Booth were a little too naive in believing everything will just fall in place between TV stations, promoters and all parties involved at the exact moment Haye snaps his fingers.

Haye's true intention appears to always have been to take the belt from Valuev, fight a couple easy paydays in between, hype the fight with the brothers and get one final high-risk high-reward payday before his announced retirement.

The problem is (IMO) that Wlad seemed to have seen through this all-too-obvious charade and is pissing on Haye's parade -- maybe to get under his skin? Maybe just because there's so much bad blood between them? Maybe to try to force Haye's hand to sign with Vitali? I have no idea but I wouldn't rule any of this out.

Neither party is completely innocent here so much is certain.

 

Come on, think about it.

Haye can't get a Sky PPV date until at least 7 days into May. He's not going to fight in what will probably be mid-May and then July 2nd. If he fights Wlad he has no choice but to wait for him

And I REALLY don't think that Sky would put on two PPV by the same boxer in a month and a half.

 

**** knows what your on about with this latest rambling :nut

Fact - haye brings more money

Haye bows to all Bitchko's demands including venue,date, Wlad - oh im gunna fight 14 fight bum Chisora now.

Defend it all you want, he looks like a complete coward :hi: