June 3, 2009 - when David Haye lost all credibility

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  1. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    How the **** do I know what a load of fan boys think? I'm not their ambassador
     
  2. ishy

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    Boente said himself that Sky Box Office brings more TV money than Wlad.

    HBO have said they will only televise a Klitschko fight if it is against Haye or Adamek.

    Haye pulled out in '09 because Setanta went bust and Haye wouldn't have seen a penny.
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are you David Haye? (the lack of) character fits. Fact: Wlad said he'll fight both British fighters and Haye said he's walking away, as he did on June 3, 2009, when his 'big draw power' went down the toilet with Setanta. :rofl Maybe he should've fixed that fight?

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  4. shaunster101

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    Apart from what ever % of ticket sales he was due to receive I imagine.
     
  5. shaunster101

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    Oh, I see. You're probably about 14 years old
     
  6. ishy

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    Nope, what was reported at the time was the only money Haye would receive was from Setanta. Everything else would go to Wlad. Seriously, that's the kind of deal they had.
     
  7. MickeyBlueEyess

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    Oh is see the problem here, your mentally ******ed, im sorry i'll leave you be now in your own little deluded world :hi:
     
  8. shaunster101

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    Really? Okay.

    That's why I say it was a great business move to fight Valuev and pick up the title. Compare the terms David Haye is due to receive if the fight goes ahead now than he was getting then.
     
  9. BigBone

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    How successful was Haye-Harrison again? The ONLY reason Sky Box Office will outdo RTL with the incomes in this particular fight is because Wladimir Klitschko will be fighting David Haye, not John Ruiz. So when you'll compare the PPV numbers between Haye vs. bum and Haye vs. Klitschko, you'll know how much draw power Klitschko has in the UK. Logic my friend.
    But when Haye does the photoshop jokes it's cool, right?
     
  10. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    You fan boys on both sides are actually embarrassing.

    Grow the **** up
     
  11. ishy

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    You don't realise how big Haye-Harrison was in the UK. It's laughable really but the general public fell for it and it did big business :nut. Sky really hyped it up.

    Sky never reveal their PPV figues but it was said Haye-Valuev did at least 700k and Haye Ruiz abour 400k (not so sure about the second figure tbh, I'll have too look it up).

    Since Valuev Haye has become a big name in the UK but yeah, a Wlad fight would do really big business and that would be because Wlad is the top man in the division.

    Klitschko on his own doesn't do much in the UK if I'm being honest.
     
  12. FORMIDABLE

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    Well it did make better business sense as he never intended on fighting them. Any one of the brothers would have put a permanent end to his facade at heavyweight. It's not hard to see that. With Haye already having pulled out of two fights with the Klits, and now seemingly looking for a way out of the Wlad fight again, they are not very good indicators his inclination is to fight them.

    He had a gentlemen's agreement with Vitali. If you can't take a man at his word, then it is worthless. Amazing people still believe every word this guy puts out. That move to fight Valuev was a perfect example of how Haye was only using the Klitschko name in order to propel him to some good paydays at heavy without having to fight them. If he really wanted to fight them, he would have fought them. **** he's had three chances already. The fact he's now talking about retiring and that he's done with the Klits speaks volumes..it's clear as day he never wanted any part of them.
     
  13. FORMIDABLE

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    I don't think Haye will fight Chagaev. His nickname "White Tyson" is enough to scare him off, and I suspect Chagaev's Hep B will be used as an excuse to kill that fight and allow Haye to keep his title. That really doesn't leave him many options. Someone mentioned Holyfield in October or something. Now that I wouldn't be surprised about.
     
  14. FORMIDABLE

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    Top notch post.
     
  15. BigBone

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    Let's do a little logical game as Hayelords don't seem to understand the word, or the business of boxing. You are only as strong at the table as much money you generate, and in boxing income comes from television, sponsors, advertisement, tickets sells and other stuff like site fees for example. Klitschko fights are televised in over 100 countries over the world, they sell out football stadiums, they have huge sponsor deals and get giant fees from RTL, dozens and dosens of deals.

    Yet when ONE TV station fell over Haye lost his entire purse. So where's Haye's big drawing power Fixmaker fans are screaming about? Where are the sponsors, the ticket sales, the international revenue and other incomes?

    Logic fails. You can't be a bigger draw than the hugely drawing Klitschkos if you lose ONE deal and you're empty handed.