Junior Super 6?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Jordan_Davies, Nov 21, 2011.


  1. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,502
    0
    Jul 28, 2011
    To give more exposure to lesser level fighters and not have the usual crap challenging for world titles i thought of a mini super 6 for propects would help.

    1 . A V B
    2. C V D
    3. E V F

    4. Winner 1 V Winner 3
    5. Winner 2 V Loser 1
    6. Loser 3 V Loser 2 - Wooden Spoon

    7. Winner 4 V Winner 5 - 1st Place
    8 . Loser 5 V Loser 6 - 3rd Place
    9. Winner 6 V Winner 8 - 4th Place

    Imagine what this would do for Prospects and gain the attention of casual fans

    Heavyweight -

    Tyson Fury V Alexander Dimitrenko
    Dererk Chisora V Robert Helenius
    David Price V Neven Pajkic

    Super Middleweight -

    This content is protected
    V Edwin Rodriguez (
    This content is protected
    V Pryor Jr) (Degale V
    This content is protected
    )
    This content is protected
    V George Groves (
    This content is protected
    V Rodriguez) (Rodriguez V
    This content is protected
    )
    This content is protected
    V Anthony Dirrell (Dirrell V
    This content is protected
    ) (Dirrel V
    This content is protected
    )

    Welterweight

    Kell Brook V Mathew Hatton
    Frankie Gavin V Brad Solomon
    Wale Omotoso V Luis Carlos Abregu

    Just an example
     
  2. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    21,647
    4
    Oct 3, 2011
    Matt Hatton looks to be most promising prospect in that list..
     
  3. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,502
    0
    Jul 28, 2011

    Im not up to date with the welter prospects, im just using an example if you know what i mean. Im trying to explain the format rather than the fighters in the tournament. the fighters are off the top of my head.

    Looking back i should have included Perez in the heavies
     
  4. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    21,647
    4
    Oct 3, 2011
    Only messing mate, It's a nice idea but sadly won't happen..

    From time to time you get these tournaments pop up similar to super six but less structured and less demanding and they end up falling apart after one night. I remember the Lightweight Tournament it had Katsidis/Jesus Chavez. Valero/Pitalua and that never got finished.

    I always liked the war of nations type shows GBP has between Mexico and Philippines.
     
  5. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

    22,226
    1
    Apr 3, 2011
    Take out Edwin Rodriguez and Aaron Pryor Jr and put in two of this guys:
    Shawn Estrada (US)
    Peter Quillin (US)
    Dominic Wade (US)
    Will Rosinsky (US)
    Ezequiel Maderna (ARG)
    Marco Antonio Periban (MEX)
     
  6. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

    22,226
    1
    Apr 3, 2011
    But anyway, matching-up so many young lions into a tournament is impossible because prospects are protected and slowly brought up to the top level. Even if they are really skillful you can break them if you trow them in to early, when they're green. They could get "Dirrelled" of tracks.
     
  7. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,502
    0
    Jul 28, 2011
    Well the way I see it, SMW for example has a total of 10 top fighters

    Carl Froch
    Andre Ward
    Lucian Bute
    Mikkel Kessler
    Glen Johnson
    Sakio Bika
    Andre Dirrell
    Jermain Taylor
    Robert Stielglitz
    Kelly Pavlik

    So then you got the prospects who are more than likely to fight Bums that will in no way prepare themselves for the Top Tier. So why not put them in with each other?

    James Degale
    George Groves
    Edwin Rodriguez
    Aaron Pryor Jr
    Thomas Oosthuzien
    Anthony Dirrell
    Peter Quillin
    Shawn Estrada
    Dominic Wade
    Marco Antonio Periban

    Just pick the top 6 of these fighters (or knowing the broadcasters, theyll go for popularity / Nationality ) Hence Degale, Groves, Rodriguez, Oosthuzien, Quillin and Dirrell are locks for a super 6 junior tourny.

    The winner gets first pick at world level with the runner up getting another world champ / big name.

    The other fighters can then fight with the other up and coming fighters or go for top journeymen, gate keepers etc.

    The fights in the super six shows what happens when you put the best with the best, this is what boxing should be
     
  8. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    21,647
    4
    Oct 3, 2011
    Beastside already pointed out that most prospects are protected. Promoters won't chuck there investment into a tournament so early.

    The Super 6 shocked everyone because the promoters actually put there man in, or there man wanted to fight the best. That doesn't happen right across the board in boxing although i agree it should be like that.
     
  9. Jordan_Davies

    Jordan_Davies Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,502
    0
    Jul 28, 2011
    Thats the thing with tournaments like this even the losers get something out of it . . . unless they come last :lol:

    Round 1 - Fight 1 - Fight 2 - Fight 3

    Round 2 - W1 v W3 - L1 V W2 - L2 V L3

    Finals - W1 V W2 - W3 V L1 - L2 V L3 ( all on same card - massive bill )

    Aftermath - W1 V ABC Champ - L1 V ABC Champ - W2 V W3 - L2 V L3

    Every fighter gets knocked out of the tourny after a loss, with the exception of round 2 ( points system of sorts to decide which loser gets a second chance)

    The Finalists both get a shot at an ABC champ ( E.g. Bute IBF, Kessler WBO)

    The runners up would fight each other in the aftermath of the tournament to settle 3-4-5-6 places. Then if they so choose they can fight the winners of the tournament depending on their performances.

    The problem with boxing is that it caters to the casual fan and the casual fans perception is the 0. thats what attracted me to the sport at first but I gradually grew to accept that a loss doesnt degrade a fighter. more casual fans need to start thinking like this too and thats what this tournament is about
     
  10. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

    11,130
    0
    May 17, 2011
    it wouldn't work. The Super 6 works because its guys at the top level. they cant get any higher.
     
  11. pathmanc1986

    pathmanc1986 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    8,853
    5
    Oct 4, 2008

    did it work?

    dirrell out, abraham lost interest, kessler out, taylor out.
     
  12. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    21,647
    4
    Oct 3, 2011
    ^^^ and that's a major reason why a prospect tournament wouldn't work. Lads would be pulling out after first loss. Claiming to be injured etc..

    A straight knock out tournament would probably be better to progress it quicker and stop any of the stupidity that's gone on in Super Six.
     
  13. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    82,426
    1,478
    Sep 7, 2008
  14. WalletInspector

    WalletInspector Obsessed with Boxing banned

    21,194
    2
    Jan 1, 2010
    The kid's going places..!




    :blood
     
  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

    82,426
    1,478
    Sep 7, 2008
    :deal Hes ducking Snith!