Junior - You've got to earn your shot at the Champion

1. He IS full of ****. FACT.

2. I cannot confirm whether or not they have tried or not. BUT - you could hardly say he has been marketed particularly well. All we get is a maximum of one sentence before the H word crops up.

3. Well - on the evidence so far, YES. Why not move up in weight or move down? Go abroad, vacate your title - do whatever is necessary to get the bigger fight.

In terms of Hatton's record over the past four years, it is a damn sight better than all bar one British fighter (JC) and better than a fair few Yankee doodles out there.

 

Because he's fightin an easy touch over the best Light Welter who he's refusing to fight afterwards.

 

Me

 

He worked to get a shot at Mayweather did he not?

You remember when Witter in his early career was pitted aginst capable fighters? Like Warren wuld throw Hatton to Bergman or Judah so early, funny that Witter actually beat Bergamn when they thought he was going to lose.

 

Compare to:

Cotto
Mayweather
Mosley
Judah
Tszyu
Castillo

Hatton no where near the greatness these fighters have achieved, who fought fighters in prime, unlike Hatton who beat names who you could say were past it, Hatton only fought one great fighter in his prime and got owned, Hatton stepped up to fight Collazo who was in his prime, not a great fighter but still nearly was beaten. Mosyley then went on to destroy Collazo.

Hatton's record is only good, its not that great, but its good for a Britoish fighter, but still no where near as good as Lewis' record.

Hatton is just a better version of Bruno.

 

Was Witter forced to take the Judah fight?

Yes Hatton did force the shot at Mayweather but it was hardly through talking **** through the media - once Tszyu pulled out at the end of the 11th round, a Hatton Mayweather fight was pretty much only a matter of time.

Your later post is pretty good though. It seems like we will have to agree to disagree on the issue of Ricky's career :good

 

I see you asking for answers

The problem lies in the question though

The division is now so poor there's nobody for Junior to shine against (except Hatton, who in marketability terms he's not even in the same league as)

Question is why didn't he make some fights happen years ago when the division was packed with talent?

It's not about who Junior should beat, it's about Junior making people sit up and take notice and clamour for the fight. He's never done this.

I think it's because his style is quite dull and some of his biggest fights (winning the WBC and Zab) were amongst the most horrible fights you'll ever see.

 

If/when he faces pac Hatton will have fought a p4p no 1, a p4p no 2 and a p4p no 3.

 

None of which actually means anything. Mayweather's called p4pn0.1 but he's not the best at welter, I don't pay attention to these lists because as I said they don't mean anything, but I'm assuming no's 2 &/or 3 are Castillo and Pac but at the end of the day you're talking about an old shot lightweight who can't get in good enough shape to get past the scales and a former bantam who bulked up to get big fights with the name mexicans at feather/superfeather. I mean Klitschko could fight everybody on the list and beat them all but it wouldn't mean anything.
In the name of compromise I'll just say I'd like to see Hatton unify the division, get Lazcano out of the way and fight Malinaggi, Kotelnik and whoever has the wbc at the end of tomorrow.
Hatton's had detractors all the way through his career, it began because of the wbu nonsense i.e avoiding Urkal and continued after winning the ibf because he cherry picked titles. Loads of Americans slate Mayweather for the same thing and rightfully so.

 

I'm not saying it's flawless. I think it's miles ahead of the other belts, such as the WBC, which Dunky claimed was the best belt out there.

I'm happy to admit that some Ring ratings are well off mark, like I've pointed out before. However, they are still the only ones which are prestigious, regardless of what I think of them.

Plus my point earlier was related to The Ring rating fights on their accomplishments not head to head talent. When I made that post before, I wasn't criticising The Ring's policy for ratings fighters on their accomplishments, it's just that it doesn't tell the whole story, as I showed by pointing out that Taylor, ranked low in the 168lbs division, would beat fighters above him.

Aside from Witter, when has Hatton ever ducked anybody? You mention Cotto and Mosley, yet Mayweather is above them both and faced him. If Cotto beat Mayweather and there was no chance of a rematch, I'm sure Hatton would face him, like he has claimed before.

Cotto has never faced a guy in his prime. Both Judah and Cotto, his biggest wins, were further gone than Tszyu was. Neither of them were ranked in the P4P list and he was favoured to beat both. As for Judah, the best fighter he's ever beaten is Cory Spinks.



Anyway, I want someone to tell me why Witter deserves a fight with Hatton. Ignoring Lazcano, why should Hatton fight him in the remainder of his career when he has options which do more for his legacy and bank balance?

 

Probably. I think it would good fight and a masterclass in body punching. Cotto is just too big and strong now though, and should stop Hatton within 10.

I think Hatton would fight him. Aside from Witter, which is for personal reasons, when has Hatton ducked anyone? He's called Cotto out in the past, so I don't know why you'd thnk Hatton would avoid him.

 

Hatton got in the ring with Mayweather and Tsyzu and has called Cotto out in the past. He may well take a beating, but there is no reason to suggest that he wouldn't take the fight except that he's perhaps staying away from 147, full stop.

 

I'm not sure about that. I think Hatton felt he couldn't be hurt by Mayweather and the worst that would happen is he'd lose a decision which he could claim was controversial because he was the one coming forward. He knew Zoo was getting on a bit and had been quite inactive. I'm not trying to take anything away from that win but Cotto is a whole different prospect.

 

think hatton would fight cotto,it would be a great fight while it lasted but he'd be too much for ricky.