Just a thought on Donaire

its different when you are actually putting on the weight. You think Pacquiao when he was weighing in at 122 would have been able to knock out Hatton at 140? You develop your body into weightclasses and your body gradually gets accustomed to the bigger weights as you fight bigger opponents and train to put on mass

I can see Donaire jumping up to 118 within 9 months. I don't think he will have more than 1 more fight at 115. and he is still really young. That'll be already 3 divisions

+ Donaire has been talking about moving through weights, but i don't see him claiming to be the next Pacquiao. He just wants to be the best he can. He is always putting Pacquiao on a pedestal

I think that the trio of Donaire, Linares and JuanMa make for a new generation of little fighters that will live up to the last one in every way. And throw in Rigondeaux too even though he's a little older.

 

Youll see plenty of Donaire nuthugging on here dont worry..There are over a dozen posters who talk of nothing but Pac and Nonito..even going as far to, quite ingeniously sometimes, link back every thread they possibly can to them.

All things considered I dont think that was a bad performance at all...Concepion was no mug and he didnt even try to make the weight.
I like him and want to see him succeed..but I was snickering a little bit about how he left Shaw because he didnt feel he was getting the right opportunities only to have the same issues under Arum.

 

Donaire busted his left hand and didn't brawl much as he would have liked. And ah..

Concepcion refused to wear 10 ounces which was a punishment for coming over the limit.

He also had 10 pounds adv..heavier than Donaire on fight day. Nonito weighted 122 Concepcion 134..

Overall It wasn't a bad as the haters say it was.

 

good points, but sometimes people read into too many things. He's a good boxer. He didn't put on a performance like he could and should have.

maybe he was injured maybe he wasn't. We don't know how that factored in his perfomance. He looked like sh*t. It happens.

You gotta remember EVERYONE is ducking the guy and I've always thought that a Viloria-Donaire showdown is a must.

 

well as soon as he faced a little problem, like a broken hand, he didint quit. he actually beat the crap out of the guy for 12 rounds.

 

IIRC, he was born in the Philippines, lived the first 10 years of his life in the Philippines, then left for the states and lived there permanently.

He is well respected and well liked by the Filipinos in the Philippines. He's just not as popular as MP. It's not because he's Fil-AMerican, or because he didnt try to represent the Philippines in the olympics.

Some fighters just have that certain X factor that makes them really popular to his people, like MP. Donaire may have some of it, but not as strong as MP's.

I mean, look at Mexico. El Terrible and Barrera's way more popular than JMM, even if the 3 of them are of similar skills and talents.

Why?

 

lackluster performance was because of the left hand injury in the 2nd round, still managed to adjust and won convincingly. He is much appreciated by his countryman, but not to the level of Pac who is being marketed on a much higher stage. A normal thing, IMO.

 

And his fights were not as available to the Filipino fans.

The first fight of his that I saw was against Darchinyan.

His brother Glenn's fights had better TV exposure than Nonito's, befiore the Darchinyan KO win.

 

It was good enough win. However old issues were more apparent in this fight. It's already been pointed out that he doesn't jab consistently, doesn't hold his hand up, workrate can drop off coz he relies on one punch at a time. Unfortunately this issues has not been addressed.

And i can't understand people who were saying he needs new trainers. Are you listening to the corner? They were asking him to jab in the 2nd rd. Combination punching. It's just not getting thru. When he jabs his way, he forced Conception to reset. When he lets his hand go, Conception back away.

His "running" was not effective. FMJ when he runs disrups his opponents rythm. Donaire, when he was running, just ups Conceptions confidence. It allows him to get into the groove instead of disrupting his rythm.

 

if the corner says something and it doesn't get through, then they didn't prepare their fighter well enough. And i was hearing the translator saying things like "Destroy him!" and "He's tired!"

 

I don't think he adjusted enough. Granted he busted his hand and he has to run. But he was still getting outjabbed bcoz he does not hold his hand up. That has nothing to do with his busted hand.

He was also allowing Conception to build up his confidence when he was running. He should have mix it up at times to stop Conception from stalking him. Instead he just pop one punch at a time. With a bully like Conception, you wont be able to back him up with that. You need combination punching and a good jab to force him to reset. The Penalosa were asking him to jab and he seems to do that as an afterthougt.