Just another Wilder vs. Fury thread and how it will play out.

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    I know...one more...still. My thoughts about the fight WITHOUT any hate or biased BS towards Wilder. Everyone knows i do not like him but i am trying to be as neutral as possible.

    Wilder was always confused if he has to face a guy with a good & solid jab and some reach & height. Szpilka did well, Washington who is a bit taller than Szpilka did better. And even Ortiz who is smaller-sized than both Szpilka and Washington but can equalize that with his natural boxing skills and talent dominated Wilder.

    Fury probably has the best jab in the whole division and he can switch it from left (orthodox) to right (southpaw). In my opinion this will win him the fight and it won't be even competitive.

    Wilder can't deal with variety as he has only one thing to offer: Power. Wilder has no jab at all, he can't win rounds vs. a bigger and taller guy with his poor jab. I mean rewatch the Washington fight. Washington was winning all the rounds or at least was absolutely even there till he got stopped. Wilder only can win rounds with landing big shots and rocking his opponents. Mostly old, small and slow targets.

    I mean: Rewatch the Ortiz fight. Ortiz is 40 years old and was gassing in the later rounds, obviously, everyone is gassing at the HW in the later rounds, but Ortiz almost dominated every round clearly apart from that round he was knocked down. Of course the scorecards are telling us a different story but they were cooked. Considering Ortiz was trying to brawl with Wilder and Fury won't do the same mistake as it's not his style to fight i can't see Wilder landing clean on Fury.

    Every time Wilder is in the perfect range to set up his bombing right Fury will either stick his jab into Wilders face or block the right or he will "hug" him for the clinch. Wilder has no movement to create angles or something, he should be lucky if he won't fell over his own feet in the whole fight as he nearly did several times in the past. Here you should rewatch the Szpilka fight, you can see it there from time to time. I almost rewatched all recent Wilder fights and i am so damn sure he will getting schooled badly, and i really mean badly as Fury toying with him.

    Another thing is: How good is Wilders power really? Try to aim a target that is higher than yourself. You have to punch / throw in a complete different angle. His windmills might work but they only came in as he already hurt his opponents and went all in to stop them in most cases. I can't see Wilder punching as powerful vs. Fury as he did vs. Oritz who is almost 20 cm / 50 inches smaller. Glass chin Szpilka was able to survive for nine rounds (i call it survive as Szpilka wasn't leading or outboxing Wilder before the stoppage, he did well at the start but clearly knew he would get wrecked by the first huge right so he tried to survive). Even old shot fighters like Arreola or Molina were able to survive for 8 / 9 rounds. Brezeale and Joshua were taking out Molina earlier than Wilder and Stiverne stopped Arreola earlier than Wilder. Ortiz survived for 10 rounds and was doing very well, nearly taking out Wilder. Wilders superhuman power is based on some vicious knockouts vs. well known glass chins like Szpilka, Liakhovich or some unreal dives (Scott). I mean even Stiverne who showed up came back twice from unreal right bombs before getting dropped for the third time where he probably thought "No, man, i could but i don't want.."...count how many clean shots Stiverne II ate before the ref waved it off. Please count if you do not believe me. From the first second till the ref stopped the fight.

    Wilder be will exposed tomorrow i think. You can quote me if he knocks Fury out cold. I'll give Wilder FULL_ credit if he beats Fury fair and square means no robbery on the cards (if he edges a close fight it would be probably a bigger credit than knocking him out but still)...