Just asking: how can Wilder fans who degrade Fury's win over Klitschko claim Ortiz as a big victory?

Yeah and people **** all over Ortiz now and make memes about him being a senior citizen all the time. I don't see the point of this other than gaslighting. I've been lurking a while and most people here, reddit, /box/ etc make fun of Ortiz for being geriatric.

The only time people **** on the Wlad win is them calling it a snoozefest. Ocassionally you get someone say that Wlad's homelife was a wreck at that time. But people praise this win all the time as a masterclass compared to the Ortiz win or Joshua's win over Wlad. This thread just makes you sound like a gaslighting Fury stan.

 

This entire era of heavyweight boxing hinges on victories over OLD MEN.

 

Wlad win was a good win, just not the epic win that some fans try to make it out to be. All I said in my OP was, if Wilder had beat Wlad that same night, his haters would not give him any credit due to Wlads age. Was ortiz DW's best win? I think so. Was it anywhere near as good as Fury's win over Wlad? No.
I think you believe by me not giving Fury all the credit you do for the Wlad win, you think I'm a Wilder fanboy. I'm not! When the Ortiz fight was made, I said, I hope the trend continues and Wilder starts fighting better opposition. I think he has, to a certain degree. He has fought Ortiz a second time and Fury twice. Just for the record, I thought Wlad was gonna whoop Fury. Fury has proven me wrong several times and I now consider him the best heavyweight out there. I just believe a win over a 35 your old Wlad would have been a better win than a 39 year old Wlad. How can anyone disagree with that?

 

No no! I said it wasn't a great win. Now, the other day, I was trolling when I said all that jive about not giving Fury credit.

 

This.
Wlad was 3 month to 40 and looked passed it since Pulev fight, but he was a great champ at some point. It is still a very good win since it's not easy to beat any version of Wlad.
Ortiz was old and never achieved anything in his entire career.

 

Lmao ok, you can ask the mods to verify. Whatever helps you sleep at night. And no you're trying to get pitty points and get people to agree with you when you're arguing against a strawman. No one claimed Ortiz is a better win than Wlad, maybe deluded Wilder stans, did to prop up his paper thin resume but I really haven't seen anyone do that. You're punching imaginary balls.

Ortiz probably is old, but I don't get the he looks old argument. He actually has a hairline unlike Fury who looks 40 himself or his cousin Nathan Gorman who looks awful for his age.

 

What lie have I sprouted? I'm sure there's some Wilder fans that think that win's better just like you can find someone who thinks Wilder is a better heavyweight than Ali if you look hard enough, but making a thread asking for validation against an extreme minority is sad and reeks of insecurity.

Likewise if you don't want to see my posts, you're free to put me on ignore friend.

 

I mean this response proves it's clear you're not lmfao. I didn't derail anything you chose to drag this out and accused me of being an alt, and no I'm not fence sitting it's clear I think that the Wlad win is much better and that Fury is a better heavyweight than Wilder. Maybe next time you should make a better thread asking who's a better HW Wilder or Ali I'm sure there's great discussion to be had there.