Just because a Boxer is not well known, or has lost, it doesn't mean they're a Bum.

Hard to tell online :good

 

What's funny is that 99.99% of the people on here wouldn't even be rated in the top 100 000 in any division, yet they dare call someone who's top 100 a bum.

 

mate, even I was able to sense his tone.. Good thread.

 

same way many fighters got lost and got knocked out in the AMS but pac fought pro really early 16 years old

 

A great example is everyone who calls Froch, Kessler, Arthur Abraham, Sakio Bika all bums and Ward an ATG. I am just like....... if those fighters are bums then Ward can't be ATG/HOF because the are some of his best wins...

 

Great post many great fighters ,ATG,HOFers, have losses it happens .I rather have a fighter fight everyone then protect his 0 in fear of losing and getting called a bum.

 

Jesus Soto Karass......

 

They all start young over there to pad their records and win little boy titles. You act like that isn't the norm there. atsch

 

Let's face it, we tAlk bad about anyone not top 30 in the world and chances are 99% of us are nowhere near top 30 in the world at our job,relationships or anything really.

 

Whatever, you start a lot of threads on bums

 

'Cos he's Simply The Best, obviously. :deal

Everyone is a bum to this guy.:rofl

No, seriously though, I just find it entirely remarkable that so many so-called boxing fans glibly refer to pro-fighters as 'bums' or similar. It'd be bad enough just to use the term about journeymen, but even top 10 fighters in a division are often described in the same way.

IMO it says far more about the posters that type such rubbish than about the fighters themselves.

As has been pointed out by others I'd far rather see a fighter fight the best guys available than hang on to an 0 by avoiding real threats. It sure as hell doesn't trouble me in the slightest if a guy has a few losses on his record, specially if they have a strong overall resume - in fact a number fighters have come back stronger after early losses.

Similarly, there seems to be an automatic assumption that because a fighter has received more mainstream (especially US) exposure it automatically makes them a superior fighter, whereas as often as not it's simply a matter of chance - of where they happened to be born, of a lucky break here or there, of going to the right gym..

If you look at a guy like Kovalev, who was on the verge of quitting in 2012 after the tragedy and a few years of the US circuit without getting a break and turned down by promoter after promoter.... I sometimes wonder how many other guys are out there, just waiting for the break - some of them maybe with a loss or two, just because fighters have bad nights (I wonder if Duva would have looked at Kovalev if he'd happened to lose the decision against Boone).