Just Being Honest, Both Spence & Crawford are overrated.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BoxingIQ, Apr 21, 2019.


  1. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    Walters a better win than Gamboa?
    Rigo a better win than Postol?
    Linares a better win than Khan?
    I think it's debatable, especially if you consider the times the fights took place. I need to rewatch some fights and do some research, but I wouldn't say Loma's best wins are head and shoulders above Crawford's best.
     
  2. Sandman_

    Sandman_ Undisputed Full Member

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    The best thing these two having going for them is each other.

    Spence will unify against the PBC fighters & Crawford will face the winner.

    The guy who cleans up at welter will deserve the hype the American boxing media puts on them.

    No-one wants to see them beating up garden gnomes. It's boring & doesn't tell us anything we don't already know.
     
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  3. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way in hell Walters is a better win than Gamboa or Rigo a better win than Postol. The Rigo fight means absolutely nothing, Pedraza did way better than Rigo and gave Loma issues, are we going to pretend that Pedraza is better than Rigo? No, there's weight classes for a reason. Linares win is better than Khan, just because Loma moved up and Khan looked like **** in his previous fight. Linares looked **** in his last couple fights too but he was still more durable. Skill wise Khan is better than Linares, but durability is just not there anymore.
     
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  4. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course you wouldn't because you are one of those posters who look at "race" first rater than the context of each resume. Who has Crawford fought that is anywhere near the level of those guys? Being objective, Canelo, GGG, Thurman, Spence, Porter, Danny Garcia, Mikey Garcia, Wilder, Tyson Fury, and Anthony Joshua have a much better resume than Crawford.
     
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  5. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Spence is over rated indeed because he got on P4P list for no reason at all and is now at #5. He never unified or did anything of note.
    Crawford is a 3 division champion and became undisputed unified champ at 140.
    If you ask me their achievements are world apart.
     
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  6. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rigo is a better gither than Postol. I do not know why it's hard for you to understand this. What exactly does Khan do better than the Linares Loma fought outside of handspeed?
     
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  7. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There isn’t a fighter out there who isn’t overrated, apart from maybe usyk, inoue, Joshua these are the only fighters actively trying to fight the best available.
    It’s easy to overrate/elevate fighters at the moment as boxing is riding on a wave, bringing casuals with it, these are easy convinced with a few YouTube videos and abit of hype, I hear people every other week are you watching the fight tonight? People that have no interest in boxing that just need something to talk about, but generally we are all to blame as the match ups we are seeing now are getting worse and yet we still watch. The decline in quality started with the mcgregor mayweather farce, now multi fight contracts worth 7 figures or more are getting dished out without specified the quality of opponents.
    So overrated yes as they haven’t proven themselves against the best, yet people calling them p4p
     
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  8. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brook and Mikey is better than anything on Crawford's resume. Why don't you guys take resume into consideration when discussing P4P
     
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  9. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wtf is a gither? Are you ****ing ******ed lmao, it's not hard to understand that Rigo moved up 2 weight classes and had no chance, while Postol was coming off a career defining win in HIS division. Do you think Pedraza is better than Rigo? He did better than Loma. Is it that hard for you to understand that he was too small to be at 130?

    Movement, combinations, jab. I mean really I can't give Linares that much credit, who has he beat? Who has Linares beat that Khan would lose to during Collazo/Alexander time. Right now he's obviously not the same. Khan is sloppy and losses concentration but if he had durability he'd be a far harder fight than Linares.
     
  10. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You forget Loma has Russel jr. on his resume and it’s one of the best wins loma has , maybe the best.
     
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  11. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Permission to Hot Take? @IntentionalButt :D


    Ol' 11 Toes Danny Garcia Brutalizes & Stops Earl in 9 With A Body Shot. If He Aggressively Takes The Fight To Him.

    Danny's has an iron chin and an iron body, Spence isn't putting him down, he's defensively sound enough to catch and shoot while coming forward, and defend well on the backfoot, while moving to Spence's right, away from his power hand, he'll slip the jab and constantly land his left hook to the ribs of Spence, which he's very open for. TKO9:deal: This is a very winnable fight for Swift. Errol tends to prefer setting his feet before letting his hands go, he's more fluid on the front foot than most, but he's no GGG in that respect. If Garcia uses the game plan of Brook and adds a few wrinkles, he's got this.
     
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  12. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Rigo is better than Postal , but Postal is a better win because he was in his prime and Crawford moved up to his division to beat him.

    Postal is a better win for the same reason Loma's win over Linares is better than Cano's.

    Not giving Bud any credit for his wins while hoisting up Rigo as a great win just reveals a biased agenda.
     
  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Walters would knock Gamboa out cold. Loma utilized the exact game plan I laid out in my thread against Rigo, he's not that hard to beat if you have excellent footwork that puts you in position to land and not get hit, most don't have the ring IQ or skillset to pull that off, but Loma did. Pedraza is far more improvisational and therefore unpredictable, similar to Loma himself, so style wise, oddly yes, Pedraza was a harder riddle to decipher than Rigo. Gervonta didn't even try, he just came forward and bludgeoned him, that's not Loma's style though, and he was coming off of an injury.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Hot take: Crawford's win over Horn is better than Spence's over Mikey.
    Crawford took on a champ in his 1st fight at welter and stopped him. Same Horn who was coming off Pac win.
     
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  15. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Eye balls say Loma is a special fighter.
    Crawford is an excellent fighter, very
    skilled.
    Spence is a very good champion at welterweight.
    All are current best.
     
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