Just curious, are y'all starting to get that SOMETHING is wrong with the Moses Itauma narrative?

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  1. alangjk

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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Loyal Member

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    I told everyone about Jared Anderson, too. How many times are the fans going to fall for it?
     
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  3. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    i didn't fall for the Itauma hype though i did regard him as an excellent prospect. However, i always believed his success was not a 100% guarantee.

    But i don't think there is any comparison between Itauma and Anderson. Itauma is way faster and more powerful than Anderson, and is a natural southpaw too.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

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    He has wonderful skills, but they swerved so many good fights that could have prepared him for this one in favor of garbage fights, that the red flags should have been up.

    I'm not sure what Frank Warren was thinking.
     
  5. uppakut

    uppakut Active Member Full Member

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    You called it, I never believed the hype either. I think it's down hill for Itauma from here, now everyone has seen how to beat him he will have to totally reinvented himself and that takes time...
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I think Frank was thinking Itauma isn't stupid enough to try to ko an iron chinned Hrgovic.

    I am not sure how many fights vs guys like Franklin could have prepared Itauma for someone like Hrgovic. He had this fight. All he had to do was box carefully in the last 4 rounds. Jesus Christ. What poor boxing IQ.
     
  7. catchwtboxing

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    It's going to be another Mark Breland, is what it is going to be. They have too much invested, so they are going to go back to the drawing board and get him guys that he can beat.
     
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    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We now know the issue: it isn’t chin, it’s gas tank. This is fixable.

    take him to serious altitude, spend months living there and doing nothing but cardio and calisthenics daily. Run him until he pukes every day, then run him some more.

    have all future camps at high altitude too.

    you do that, he’s unstoppable.
     
  9. catchwtboxing

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    They swerved Sanchez, and yes, everyone hates to hear it, but Gassiev. They could have had a belt by now, and a couple of fights against better operators than Franklin and shot Whyte.
     
  10. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Sanchez would have been a better option.

    Gassiev is dangerous and even if Itauma would beat him, it wouldn't have taught him how to deal with tall skilled heavies. But you are right; better to fight Gassiev than Whyte.
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

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    Bottom line is that there was some criminal mismanagement, here. This guy is no Tyson--but there is not shame in that! They chose to spin a narrative rather than address his real deficiencies, specifically his stamina. Shame on Frank Warren, and hopefully Moses bounces back and has a good career.
     
  12. LaidOut

    LaidOut Whaaaaat? Full Member

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    Everyone keeps using descriptives like “exceptional, highly talented, possible GOAT, etc” for Itauma. Now we see the truth. He’s average. And he was matched with fairly easy opponents to make him out to be better than he was. Does he have a future? Sure, and he can probably even win a strap again, but now everyone knows his balloon has popped. He’s a bit overly energetic for a few rounds, then he’s done. If he resorts to fighting like a normal HW, meaning you keep energy in reserve for a full 12 rounds, then he will probably become an average HW. Or try to KO opponents early on, with the risk of gassing out quickly, a al Big Bang Zhang.
     
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  13. catchwtboxing

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    I've honestly never seen anything like the hype for this guy. How the hell do people defend the Ring Magazine ratings when they rated this guy for NOTHING? How was he #1 contender for basically all of the organizations?

    And Hrgovic, hats off to him, isn't even very good.
     
  14. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    i know people were getting carried away with him. But i wouldn't say he is average. His speed and power are exceptional. Its his boxing IQ and pacing that are below average.
     
  15. Special K

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    He’s right handed.