Just curious, If Wilder is afraid of Joshua, why did…

12.5mill is 6x more than Hybrid has ever made - that's not a bad starting offer given he'll only be in the ring for a couple of rounds before Joshua ktfo's him. That's 1 mill per minute.

 

Negotiations had started, wilders team ignored it and then wilder sent personal email's offering a silly deluded counter offer..

A fighter making silly demands/made up silly offers after the attempt of negotiations is just nonsensical....

 

This is the entire point and the reason between the seemingly poles apart offers. The dispute lies in the nature of the ballpark.

Hearn says that the fight takes place at Wembley, in front of 90k Joshua fans and selling up to say 2m UK Sky PPV packages. Matchroom's regular sponsors and the international rights makes the pot. From that he says that the 12.5mn equates to 25-35% depending on how the fight does against progression. His offer looks like 30% therefore but with no risk/upside depending on how well it does. It's on the low side of what Wilder would hope for but in pure dollar terms it's easily his biggest ever payday and there's a rematch clause which could see him clear near 40m USD.

The problem with this offer isn't so much the amount or the percentage as it is the format. Finkel and Haymon can't accept because if the fight outperforms projections Wilder takes less in percentage terms and they look like idiots. If Hearn in negotiation said 'ok, you can have the middle range figure, 30% as a percentage then I think most observers would think, 'ok, not ideal, you would've hoped for more, but he has 3/4 belts to your one and win this fight and the rematch and you are potentially 50m USD better off AND you're now undisputed and can name your price for subsequent fights. Take the fight, beat him or not you're a wealthy man at the conclusion.

That was how I think the fight could've been made. Tough, but fair considering Joshua brought in the vast majority of the revenue, the belts, the international recognition etc. All the things Wilder lacks and all worth paying for, metaphorically speaking...

Finkel and Haymon dispute the value of the fight. The UK has an earnings ceiling, Vegas is much higher, if the fight sells. They want to say that the value comes from AJ AND their guy Wilder coming together and as such Deontay deserves a bigger share. If they're right then both fighters can make far more money from a US based fight. Unfortunately we don't know if they're right because they took their bat and ball home and refused to talk...

Anyway, sorry for another longwinded post. Where do you see the ballpark and what constitutes a fair offer?

 

Cant argue with this!