Just finish watching Maidana vs Kotelnik and let me say that i thought...

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Dude wake up to reality. Isn't Kotelnik living in germany? hmmm. And incase you forgot most ukrain and russia fights in germany most of the times like both Klit brothers and Valuev for starters.
     
    rayhogan, Aug 6, 2010
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  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Explain the mechanics of how the fact that Nicolai Valuev lives in Germany makes a French boxing judge biased in favour of a Ukrainian fighter fighting an Argentinian fighter. I'm intrigued about this reality of which you speak.

    And then post your scorecard.
     
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  3. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    He's an idiot, you see.
     
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  4. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Dude the fight is in germany. I don't care if that judge is african, that won't mean Maidana would get a fair shake. The crowd was very very biased to Kotelnik that makes the judges feel like that fighter is winning the fight. Its the crowd response to a hometown fighter (Kotelnik lives in germany i believe).
     
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  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    A German boxing crowd making any noise, nah that's just a way to obvious lie mate.

    Maidana had fought five times in Germany in the 18 months before the fight compared to Kotelnik's zero times btw...

    Post scorecard?
     
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  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I score it 115-113 for Maidana. That last 2 rounds seal the deal for Maidana imo.
     
    rayhogan, Aug 6, 2010
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  7. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Kotelnik in total fought 19 times in germany.
     
    rayhogan, Aug 6, 2010
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  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    That's not a scorecard, that's a score...
     
    Cobbler, Aug 6, 2010
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  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Rounds 1: Maidana

    Rounds 2: Kotelnik

    Rounds 3: Maidana

    Rounds 4: Kotelnik

    Rounds 5: Kotelnik

    Rounds 6: Kotelnik

    Rounds 7: Kotelnik


    Rounds 8: Maidana


    Rounds 9: Maidana

    Rounds 10 Maidana

    Rounds: Maidana


    Rounds 12: Maidana



    ^^^115-113 Marcos Maidana
     
    rayhogan, Aug 6, 2010
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  10. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol:German fight crowds are like theater audiences!
     
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  11. bigboxingfan

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    This was a very close fight and could have gone either way. People that scored it for Maidana say that he landed hard shots. But I saw a lot of clean and beautiful shots landing from Kotelnik as well. I scored it 115-113 in Kotelnik's favor. I have seen it once, might even have to see it again to see if I did a good job on the scoring.

    I have heard some people crying robbery. Close fight, anyone who says this was a robbery has lost all objectivity. A draw would have been fine :yep

    Kotelnik is a bit underrated in my opinion. He is a solid fighter that never goes away and you have to get a decision against him. Kotelnik is Khan's best win imo. He could surprise a few people against Alexander because everyone seems to be thinking Alexander is in against a bum.
     
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  12. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    It wasn't a robbery but since the fight was in germany, in close situation, a fighter fighting on the road most of the times won't get a fair share decision in which is reality true rather Maidana promoter was germain or not.
     
    rayhogan, Aug 6, 2010
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  13. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    I believe I had Kotelnik winning the fight. I'll have to go get my scorecard.
     
    DemolitionDan, Aug 6, 2010
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    anyone thinking a british judge would be biased towards a german knows nothing at all.
     
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  15. elindiomonzon

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    and biased towards and argentinian??? even worse
     
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