Just finished Hagler-Duran...

Amazing Duran,

He looked so ordinary versus
Jimmy Heair
Adolfo Viruet
Zeferino Gonzalez

His run of
Pipino Cuevas
Davey Moore
Marvin Hagler
Thomas Hearns

At an older age, is remarkable, to say the least.

 

Duran was so cagey against Hagler.

Almost too cagey.

He was the better fighter in there, more talented, more skilled, and was giving Marvin fits on top of fits, but he just wasn't pulling the trigger enough, and Marvin squeaked out rounds and ended up winning the fight.

9-6 Hagler, with about 6 rounds razor close in there.

 

Not too many guys with a resume listed like Roberto.
He fought guys who were champions in;
Featherweight
Super Featherweight
Lightweight
Light Welterweight
Welterweight
Light Middleweight
Middleweight
Super Middlweight
Light Heavyweight

 

Yup. Leonard's post 1984 fights were carefully chosen. Julian Jackson was also feared by the aging stars of the day.

As for Hagler Duran - if only Duran had been slightly bigger or younger it could have been his biggest ever win. As it stands it was still an impressive showing for Duran, all things considered.

 

:good For me he's a top 10 ATG and more than just a great boxer Duran was a true force of nature.

 

Roberto Duran,,,,,,,,,out of this galaxy.
From Ernesto Marcel to Marvin Hagler.
The guy make have even given Muhammad Ali a tough time in February 1978.

Marvin Hagler,,,,,,,,,,out of this world.

 

Hearns vs Hagler answered a question. It proved that Hearns was not durable enough to compete with Hagler, its as simple as that.

 

I wish someone would post that fight on youtube. I am been looking for it for a while. One of the only Duran fights i haven't seen.

 

which shows you how good Benitez was to beat Duran at 154 pounds 2 years before the Hagler fight and outclassing Duran pretty much, and then how good Hearns was to stop Duran in 2 rounds just 7 months after the Hagler fight again at 154 where Duran held a title.

 

well then how do you answer Roldan going 10 with Hagler and Tommy stopping him in 4? Roldan was durable? Not really. Thing is Hagler put out a super effort with Hearns. he mentally and physically put out his all, and after that fight he seemed to lose a little motivation for fighting. For the first time he didn't fight for a year and looked soft vs. Mugabi.
As for Hearns, stopping Duran easily in 2 shows what fighting aggresively and using speed does with Duran.. Hagler fought better with tall guys than shorter guys believe it or not. He had a 75 inch reach, which helped him. But the fact is had he been more aggressive he would have beaten Duran decisively as Benitez and Hearns did around the same time Hagler beat him.

 

Nunn would have been a terrible fight for Roberto. He would have stopped Roberto probably, and Nunn vs. Ray is another bad matchup for Ray. Hagler vs. Nunn if Hagler was motivated is another story. Marvin would take him into the late rounds and work him over on the ropes. Hearns/Nunn is a toss up. Tommy's right hand down the pike with Nunn's southpaw stance means Nunn cannot go many rounds or Tommy would land that right and stop him. Roberto and Ray would have had a harder time with Nunn than Tommy and Marvin. Marvin was big in solid weight and Tommy tall and fast. So both guys could compete in ways the other two couldn't.

 

too bad Wilfred didn't fight him. It might have been interesting. But Wilfred's last good weight was 154. At 160 he lost his edge and after the Hearns fight he lost his confidence more than people think.

 

I will go with the actual results of the fight thank you. Total speculation that he would have stopped Duran if he fought differently. I will go by what 60 minutes of fighting showed.

Hearns did match up with Hagler. he got blown out, didn't even win a round.


As for Rolden, that fight proved my point. Hearns was a great offensive fighter, and if he had advantages he could take you out like he did Rolden. He was also hurt by Rolden and their were times when you wondered if Hearns was going to lose that fight.

Hearns couldn't hurt Hagler like he did Rolden so he had ZERO chance. he couldn't stand up to Hagler. The same thing would have happened every time.

For god sakes Hearns got destroyed right in his prime by Hagler. Call it what it was, and let it answer the question.

 

Hearns got knocked out, but Hagler was worn out in round 3 and very tired. Hagler could barely throw punches in round 3 and was arm weary, something the Duran fight didn't do to him. Totally different fight.

As for the Duran/Hagler fight, Duran fans is a rare time where a guy loses and people turn that into a win. Which is why Benitez and Hearns beating Duran easily before and after that fight is significant. If Duran fought so well with Hagler and people say it was brilliant how he fought, well brilliance is not a term people use for a really washed up fighter or even much past his prime. Yet those two greats pretty much controlled Duran and beat him easily, as did Leonard in the rematch. Duran gets credit for that fight, yet when he loses near that time those fights are forgotten. Not exactly objectivity. He was a champion at 154 pounds when he fought Hagler, so he still had his title after that fight and the Hearns fight was a fight between champions (had they not stripped Duran for fighting Hearns).

And I still say Hearns win over Hill is better than the win Duran had over Leonard in June of 1980. Hill was undefeated and had 10 title defenses and fought his fight, but he still couldn't beat Hearns, who was 30 and not just 12 pounds over his starting weight.