Just for guys who could not make it in boxing

You've probably never fought of your entire life in the street. Who the **** care about where you beat that mother****er?

If I beat him while i'm in full mount over him and I break his head with my elbow, or I KO him clean standing, the result is the same, he is my *****. Ground fight or not. Who the **** care.

 

Oh ****.......I didn't realize I was talkin to the baddest man alive.

But ****, how are you bad, if you tryin to have gay sex with a dude?

That **** ain't bad.....it's gay.

Just fight like a man.....not a dude tryin to have sex with a man.

I mean be real.

 

Thats precisely the point YOU DONT GET IT. Whats the point in Jujitsu Judo BJJ Wrestling etc? Most of the grappling arts have been around since the days of the Greeks. If you dont understand it fine. But then take your time to educate yourself about it instead of giving a waffling opinion riddled with holes because you cant understand other fighting arts. As for taking a whupping you name me ONE successful fighter in the upper echelon of boxer who became successful by getting beaten up? Boxing is about learning to hit WITHOUT getting hit. See a prime Ali, Tyson , PBF for further details.

 

Exactly.

That's about the time when homosexuals were invented.

 

Bit stupid arent you. :roll: Tell you what lets leave it there...

 

Man, I'm just tryin to talk ****.

I thought that **** was funny.

Ya'll need to lighten up.

 

Strange sense of humour. I normally laugh at jokes because there jokes and jokes are funny your not. Didnt realize that was one. My bad... .



























Idiot

 

Damn, you need to lay off the roids.

Isn't it late as hell in England and you're still raging?

 

:huh

 

Who the hell is Richel Hersisia? Never heard of him.

Mercer ACTUALLY was too old. What kind of response did you expect me to say? The guy has been a non-factor in boxing for years now and at this point is just looking to find nice decent paycheques which he cant find in boxing anymore. This is no different in the Kimbo fight. Mercer is not a good example, simple as that. Hes old, punch drunk, fat, out of shape. If you're honestly using this example with a straight face I dont know what to tell you. And just because boxers compete under a specific ruleset does not mean they are limited to that specific ruleset in other combat situations. I'm sure people didnt expect Crocop to have a great sprawl and for Hunt to have the best fighter in MMA in side mount.

If your best example for MMA vs boxing is Ray Mercer than thats pathetic. It just shows you are grasping at straws here.

"But for the sake of argument....Let's say we have 2 equally one dimensional fighters. One , a respected boxing legend , the other , a bum from the streets...

More often than not....the bum who's only good to rush like a bull and take you down , will always have an advantage in the street or under non-boxing rules."

And I honestly cant believe you just said that... and actually believe it. This is not even worth a response its so outrageous and illogical.

Just watch Seth/Kimbo. If Kimbo rushed in like that to a legitimate striker, Kimbo wouldnt be fighting anymore.

Hell, Houston Alexander/Jardine fight is a prime example of a top 5-10 LHW in MMA getting thrashed by a bum whos only asset is bum rushing. Something tells me Alexander wouldnt fare to well doing that on David Haye or Tomasz Adamek.

 

Crocops first MMA fight was in 2001, a year in which he had three K-1 fights. Than early 2002 had a draw with Wanderlei Silva, a year in which he also competed three times in K-1. Than the following year 2003 beat a tough, rugged, experienced fighter in Heath Herring, a year in which Crocop also competed in K-1. In fact, he fought in K-1 in late April and a month later went on to defeat Heath Herring.

For a guy who had 7 K-1 fights in 27 months and in that span managed to go undefeated and go onto fight Wanderlei Silva, Heath Herring, Sakuraba and Igor Vovchanchyn in which he defeated 3 of those men.

So if he did get a crash course, it must have been a very short one.

Kickboxers do not have an advantage. The bottom line is, like boxing they compete in a sport in which they fight on their feet and only on their feet. I mean you honestly think some boxing reject like Mark Hunt has an advantage because he competed in a criminal organization in K-1 thats full of juicers? Thats absurd. At the end of the day, kicking leaves you more vulnerable for takedowns than boxing does. And being able to defend and check kicks is not something that a boxer needs reprogramming, its not a difficult transition. There are top level guys in MMA who still cant check kicks and one of them held the UFC LHW belt as early as last year.

Did you just say Mark Hunt is not, NOT a failed boxer? And than you post his boxing record in which his record is 0-1-1? You just proved my point. They put him in there with cans and he couldnt even beat the cans. Just like Ray Sefo.

And Jeremy Williams? The guy competed in Judo as a kid for christs sake. Than like 2 decades later competes in MMA and goes undefeated. His 5-0 record certainly isnt because of judo, more likely because of the fact hes a good athlete and was actually a fairly accomplished boxer.

And my god, he took down Lennox Lewis while SPARRING IN BOXING. Congratulations, he took down Lennox while Lennox was wearing 16oz gloves and they WERE BOXING. You really think Lennox is expecting some goof ball to throw him down while sparring. ITS BOXING. That reflects worse on Williams because he wasnt man enough to take a beating while getting paid.

According to your logic, JZ Calvacante has bad takedown defense because he was thrown to the ground by kickboxer Masato in a kickboxing bout. Your logic is so ridiculous, as mentioned earlier you're just grasping at straws here.

And no hard feelings, just ignore my insults. Just like I dont take offense to yours.

 

This whole argument is stupid, the fact you've obviously put so much thought into this is funny as hell. MMA fighters and boxers are both skilled in their respected arts, MMA fighter wins in MMA rules boxer wins in boxing rules. Obviously there are some exceptions to the rule but generally speaking.

 

Kimbo Slice is a big, scary black man!

 

Yes, yes he is lol

 

No, MMA is not for guys that just couldn't make it in boxing. I don't like MMA as much as Boxing but to doubt these guys toughness is idiotic. Depending on the weight the best mma fighter will pretty much always beat the best boxer of a similar weight in an anything goes fight.