Just how good of a boxer was James Toney?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    LOL, you had Toney up by three points over Peter. Do you think Toney won the Oquendo fight too? I say heck yes, and the judges were crooked for picking him over Tiberi.

    PS: Yes I did see Toney vs Jones. Don't tell anyone what they did or did not see. SMH
     
  2. Mendoza

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    This thread has become about bad judging and fanboy excuses. Your right Blade still has not told us who he felt won between Canelo and Golovkin in the first fight.

    Maybe you can try getting a reply from him. :D
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    This thread was a load of **** from the start. That's on you.

    It's interesting that you accuse others of not replying when you yourself have tried to wiggle out of it on multiple occasions on this thread and others.
     
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  4. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Toney outboxed Peter I.Just check the cards of the TV crew and the press row. Yeah I thought James edged Oquendo.Fres win against Byrd, that was a robbery
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And you constantly comment on fighters and fights you never saw !!!you never answered my question, you got what you deserved
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    Get out of here. Yes, when there is no film I do this. So does everyone. DUH.

    Which fights do you mean constantly? If you're as referring to Toney vs McCallum 1, not only did I see it, I posted my card here. I can post news on ANY fight, wether I saw it our not. There is no rule. News and facts are just that. But you said constantly so list the fights you are talking about, otherwise your a lair. I bet you duck and run, as you always do.

    Now can you comment on who do you think won between GGG and Canelo in heir 1st fight as you claimed to have seen it? Let me guess another duck.
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    You " thought Toney edged Oquendo? What fight were you watching?! Yes, I saw it. You have zero ability to score a boxing match. Toney up 3 points on Sam Peter? Get out of here.

    • Versus viewers had Oquendo winning in the scoring 115-113
    • Versus blows report: Oquendo 222/740 30%, Toney 154/491 31%.
    • Versus announcers had Oquendo winning 116-112.
    • Most Boxing writers had Oquendo winning 116-112
    But you felt Toney won it because your a fanboy who can't score anything correctly!:nonono

    I might as well archive your bad score cards. Do yourself a favor and don't post more of them.
     
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You have long been exposed in this regard, everybody knows that.Your posts have been very revealing.Now answer my question first !!!
     
  9. THE BLADE 2

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    Opinion
     
  10. Loudon

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    An unexceptional former MW couldn't compete with any world class CW's and HW's even WITH aid.

    How was Toney a weight bully?

    He moved up to CW because he was unprofessional and couldn't keep himself in shape.

    Of course he was never going to fight the K bros or Lewis etc.
     
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  11. Loudon

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    Is this another fight you've never seen?

    Roy barely threw the jab.
     
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  12. Loudon

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    If I hadn't have corrected you, you'd still be telling everyone that Johnson had been beaten and out boxed by 7 guys. And you get it right, he wasn't even out boxed and beaten by SIX guys.

    Go and WATCH the fights.

    Go and watch the ones with Castro.

    You are commenting on a fighter that you have zero knowledge of.

    Regarding the rematches, George has already put you straight.

    Michael Nunn regrouped at SMW.

    Tiberi retired and turned down $500,000 because of his issue with the decision.

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    Nobody is interested in discussing your math. You form an opinion before you even watch the fights.

    Again, a guy who knows NOTHING about Reggie Johnson and who never saw Toney's fights with McCalllum and Nunn, did not tune in to watch him fight a C class fighter in Dave Tiberi. Nobody is going to believe that. It's ridiculous.

    You are the sad and dishonest poster.

    You tie yourself up in the biggest of knots.

    You say that Toney wasn't exceptional, yet then claim that he was a top 25 MW of all time.

    Ha!

    That doesn't make sense.

    You say that BJS struggled and almost lost to a euro level fighter because of a loss of focus, yet refuse to believe that the same thing happened to Toney against Tiberi.

    You say that McCallum could never have beaten GG because he lost 5 times in his career, before stating on another thread that Hopkins could have done, despite the fact that he lost 8 times in his career. And he lost more at MW than what McCallum did. Ha!

    You are all over the place, staggering around like a drunkard.

    If you actually debated on logic rather than emotion, you'd make a much better poster.
     
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  13. THE BLADE 2

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    You are very right in pointing out that this poster never watched several fights of Toney !!
     
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  14. Loudon

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    Good post.

    It's just disingenuous to say that Toney was getting schooled before he got a lucky knockout.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Was he an exceptional fighter who had flaws, or was he just a straight out unexceptional fighter?

    Make up your mind.
     
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