Just looked up jimmy wildes record and it is a joke this man is considered atg

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  1. darling dame

    darling dame Active Member Full Member

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    His record is rather good! thanks for all time spent on it. Nat Fleischer RING has him #1 All-time Im just going with that!!:patsch
     
    darling dame, Oct 18, 2011
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  2. Vano-Irons

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    ^^^^ Yeah, but this guy looked him up on boxrec!
     
    Vano-Irons, Oct 18, 2011
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  3. Vano-Irons

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    I wouldnt bother with him, he tried to convince me that Harry Greb's record was full of bums, and that Calzaghe's record was better
     
    Vano-Irons, Oct 18, 2011
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Don't tell me this muppet has flicked through some incomplete records and deemed the guy worthless?

    I'd love to hear madmanc back up his claim that these fighters were bums.
     
    lufcrazy, Oct 18, 2011
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  5. trampie

    trampie Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wildes opponents records were not recorded as well as lots of Wildes fights, the only Flyweight records recorded were often championship bouts, therefore if Wilde fought somebody with a record of 4 wins 2 defeats, that was often their championship record, that boxers overall record could well be 104 wins and only 2 defeats.
     
    trampie, Oct 18, 2011
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  6. Masamune

    Masamune Active Member Full Member

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    Acknowledging Jimmy Wildes greatness does not diminish Mannys achievments at all - calm down man , there were ATG's well before HBO and Toprank came along.
     
    Masamune, Oct 18, 2011
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  7. Vano-Irons

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    In his other thread, he said Greb's record was full of bums, and that Calzaghe had a better resume. Sums it up
     
    Vano-Irons, Oct 18, 2011
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  8. MattMattMatt

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    I don't know as much about Jimmy Wilde as I would like. Could you tell me what his best 10 wins are? From a quick bit of boxrec warrior-ing (yes, that's all I have time for right now!), he does appear to have an extremely padded record. While winning 90+ fights in a row sounds impressive, I'm not convinced of the level of opposition. Is there any footage of his earlier fights so that we can actually determine how good they were? (I will search myself when I get home)

    On paper (admittedly incomplete records I assume), his record looks very padded. Based on that, they appear to be the types of opponents that would be labeled 'bums' by today's ESB'ers, and modern fighters wouldn't be allowed to fight more than a few before they started to be berated for their terrible opposition. I don't want to write off anyone elses opinions, especially those of respected boxing historians, but I'm always reticent to get caught up in nostalgia...so video has to carry a lot of weight. One thing in Wilde's favour is that he appears to have a relatively complete record, which must imply people were interested in him (or are now, and compiled it over time). However, if his opponents were that good, perhaps we should be expecting them to have more complete records too?
     
    MattMattMatt, Oct 18, 2011
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  9. lufcrazy

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    He has no knowledge of boxing. None.
     
    lufcrazy, Oct 18, 2011
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  10. DonnieB

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    This is ludacris, I have heard people claim that this guy is the hardest puncher p4p ever.

    Sure he wasnt feather fisted and he apparently had a decent skill level. (not sure if there is any tape of him) this guy used to beat up cab drivers and pub bouncers many of which appeared to be finsihing their night shift when entering the ring.
     
    DonnieB, Oct 18, 2011
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  11. MattMattMatt

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    Is that definitely true? On what evidence is that based? I'm prepared to accept it if that can be shown to be the case.
     
    MattMattMatt, Oct 18, 2011
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  12. madmanc3210

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    Shut up u tit.you back up claims they werent bums.your how old 23 ? What would you know apart from whats been written or some crap quality old film which will show they where limited fighters.
     
    madmanc3210, Oct 18, 2011
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  13. madmanc3210

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    well exactly if the opposition where good or great their records woud be known.but try telling some jokers on here that and its blasphamy.
    So come on lufc who did he beat that made him so great.to say pac doesnt put him to shame is a joke
     
    madmanc3210, Oct 18, 2011
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  14. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't want to be that guy but... you don't know what you are talking about. Guys walked around with losses in that era. It's just the way it was. No one was protected like they are now. The facination with unbeaten records strarted largely with Joe Louis and we would be better off if he lost his first fight like bhop.
     
    RobertV77, Oct 18, 2011
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  15. madmanc3210

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    That might explain why a lot of the fighters where 0-1-0 just to get that 0 out f the way quick
     
    madmanc3210, Oct 19, 2011
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