Just re-watched Cotto vs Margarito

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    After the hysteria of seeing Cotto succumb to Margarito, I've heard on a few occasions at ESB that this fight has no business being mentioned in the same sentence as Marquez vs Vasquez III. Some even decide to put other great fights ahead of this one, including; Pacquiao vs Marquez II, and of course, Adamek vs Cunningham. It's been called overrated as of late, and I would like to attempt to dispell the rumour.

    These two go toe-to-toe for 11 brutal rounds, with barely even a clinch in the entire fight. I couldn't quite appreciate Margarito's work on the first viewing, but he was landing sharp uppercuts inside, and shortened hooks to the head, early in the fight. You could hear the thuds of the gloves, as Cotto was clearly landing shots that would have dazed or even knocked unconscious teh majority of other 147lb fighters in the world if landed cleanly. Margarito would just smile, laugh, and often jog across the ring to take more punishment in order to land his shots.

    There is another rumour that attempts to downplay how great this fight was by trying to say Cotto was not getting full power into his shots, because he was on the back foot. I think this is a load of crap. Cotto was not on the backfoot as much as he was in the early rounds, as he was in the later ones, but you just had to look at the slow-motion replays to see those unbelievable bombs landing. It's a credit to both Cotto's punching power, hand speed, but also Margarito's chin and determination, that this fight didn't end as early as the 6th.

    I don't remember any dull moments, apart from maybe round 10 where Cotto pretty much avoided everything Margarito threw, but then of course the last 30 seconds brought on an onslaught that would not only badly hurt Cotto, but win Margarito the round. That was pretty much the story of the fight. This was not one-sided. Margarito detractors who want to criticise him for heading into a rematch with Cotto say that "Cotto got his ass whooped". "It was an easy night". That is bull****. I had Miguel winning 5 of the opening 6 rounds, and the 9th, and what made this fight so great apart from two heavy punchers going toe to toe with hardly any breaks for 11 rounds, was the ebb and flow of the action.

    A fight of the highest order in my opinion, and it would be no injustice for it to grab FOTY honors..in this posters opinion.
     
  2. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Agreed, Cotto was planting his feet virtually everytime - as well as launching forward when throwing.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Some of the slow-motion action shots they showed in between rounds were sickening. I couldn't believe Margarito was not even wobbled in the fight, just like Kellerman says, "We know Cotto's heavy handed and we see him landing these titanic shots, but none of them seem to phase Margarito". Unreal.
     
  4. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Cotto did alot of clean hard work, agreed. ^ Incidentally, Margarito has stated that Cotto doesn't have very good power. He claimed he's been hit harder by multiple fighters.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Which makes it even more sickening.
     
  6. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Could be mind games on the part of Margarito knowing they will fight again. Do you buy it, SK?
     
  7. JosePR51

    JosePR51 Active Member Full Member

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    Margo is a ****ing freak of nature. Jesus Christ. I watched the fight last night again and it was amazing. Any other guy hit by those Cotto bombs would have been taken out in a stretcher.
     
  8. heart

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    margo saying cotto's shots weren't that powerful lol. did he look in the mirror after the fight? he looked like the ****in michelen man.

    that being said i think cotto is a very hard puncher but doesn't really have the 1 punch KO power some people think....same with margo.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I'm split, Rafael.

    On one hand, I think Margarito is a humble guy and would not lie about something like that. On the other hand, I watched the fight live on TV, and I must have rewatched it close to 15 times, and I'm always in awe with the shots that are landing. Cotto is a above average puncher, even as a Welterweight, and he couldn't have landed harder shots than he did that not.

    I'll give Margarito the benefit of the doubt, as he never showed any evidence of being hurt, but Cotto can bang.
     
  10. JosePR51

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    Good post. Agreed. They don't have one punch KO power like a guy as Kermit Cintron. They systematically wear you down and punish you for many rounds.
     
  11. heart

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    I disagree....cotto was fighting most of the fight defensive minded and backing up most of the fight. when he was throwing he was throwing quick, accurate combinations - not huge power shots. Although they did look huge because margo's head is as open as a china-town *****-house, and he was getting hit so cleanly.
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    But that's my point. Cotto didn't just land the odd shot on Margarito, he landed bombs from opening bell to last, and on one occasion in particular, three consecutive left hooks with his feet planted. At the end of the day, Margarito should have had Cotto's respect at that point, but he didn;t.
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah i just rewatched it on "ondemand" earlier today as well..

    i think cotto MENTALLY couldnt handle the pressure and that ultimately lead to his demise...

    Cotto to my knowledge has never faced a 100% pressure... so it was a tactic that he was in-experienced in
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Bull****.

    Watch the fight again. It's on HBO's Boxing website, for free.

    Cotto lands big bombs, in virtually every round, and his feet is often planted. He threw everything but the kitchen sink.
     
  15. boricua100%

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    Miguel cotto is my favorite boxer, even though he lost this fight it is the best peformance i have seen from him. He gave an impressive fight and i also think he can win the rematch