just re-watched Kessler Vs. Calzaghe.....props to both, but can they beat Dawson?

1st off this probabbly gonna be long so if you dont really care about how i got to my conclusion just skip down to 1-4 in the next post

but anyways, last year when i watched Kessler vs. Calzaghe and saw Kessler get beat up for 90percent of the fight.....i didn't give any credit to Kessler, and i didn't give much credit to Calzaghe for beating "an overrated B class euroboxer"

and after all the talk about Calzaghe-Dawson broke out....some people started to talk about Dawson-Kessler, "could Dawson even beat the guy who Calzaghe said gave him his toughest fight" or some **** like that, so i'm "thinking this is a ridiculous fight, Kesslers just a Bclass Euroboxer who Calzaghe mopped the floor with"...... but when i had only seen Calzaghe-Kessler, i'd never seen any other Kessler fights

so after going back and watching Kessler-Andrade, and some of his other fights i realized that Kessler is actually a very good boxer, who may very likely be a great boxer someday......a very technically sound boxer/counter puncher with good power and good hand speed, and good defense

so after i realized that i also found myself think 2 things......."dam Calzaghe mopped the floor with a very good fighter", then, i thought...how the hell could Kessler lose to Calzaghe, this guy can really box, and most the time Calzaghes as sloppy as they come"....

so while i'm re-watching the fight......it's going just as i figured it would go after gaining my new found respect for Kessler skills, Calzaghes coming in sloppy and Kessler landing good counter shots, and hitting 1-2's down the middle, and blocking Calzaghes wide slaps.... and this goes on for like the 1st 2-3 rounds, so i'm thinking "ok, how the hell did he lose this one?, because i remmember Calz mopping the floor with him?, i honestly don't see how he can lose the fight the way Joes fighting and the way he's fighting"

ok now this is where my new found respect for Calzaghe comes in

after the first 2-3 rounds of Calzaghe getting thoroughly outboxed.....Calzaghe decides to work behind his jab and as soon as i saw that i reliazed the fight was over, it was a brilliant idea, because a southpaw's jab destroys an orthodox boxers boxing rhythm, and if Kessler cant work behind his jab, he can't win, because Kesslers whole style his built off his jab, which i realized after watching all those other Kessler fights

so for the rest of the fight Calzaghe is fighting a very technical fight trippling up on the jab, throwing body shots, and so on and so on, and as we all know, mops the floor with Kessler

great performance.....i take back everything i've said about Calzaghe and Kessler, though i've always thought Calzaghe was a great fighter and i've always liked him, i found new respect for the guy

 

so yeah.....that brings me to the 4 main points of this thread

#1. Calzaghes victory over Kessler was by far his most impressive fight, and goes underrated by many probabbly because they've never seen much of Kessler before, because it turns out Joes actually a very smart fighter and tecnically he's very refined....so with that said, Calzaghe's ATG status takes a huge lea, in my book, i'd say he's easily Top 75 of all time, and also there is no orthodox boxer or fighter in the world who can beat Joe Calzaghe fighting btwn. 160 and 175

#2. Kessler is a very great boxer,and from a technical stand point he's one of the best in the world, but ath the same time......Kessler cannot brawl, he's not a very good inside fighter at all, if you take away his jab he has nothing, but at the same time they're aren't alot of fighters that can take away his jab Calzaghe just happend to be one of them.....and the main point of #2 is that Kessler is not "B class Euroboxer", he's actually an A class boxer, and he'll probabbly be a Pound for Pound top 10 fighter at the least

and now the last 2 points of this thread and anaylsis, take it for what it is, feel me? it's based off of facts not any kind of bias, and i think any logical fan will find it to be true all bull**** aside (meaning haters/dick riders)

#3. Chad Dawson would stop Kessler, and heres why....Dawsons a southpaw who works behind his jab, meaning Kessler would not be able to get off just like he couldn't against Calzaghe, because as soon as you take away his jab, he cant box....he can't fight his fight, the only shot at victory is to fight inside....and as we all know Dawson can bang, and more then that, Kessler admitted that Joe hurt him at the body, and Dawsons best punch is a right hook to the body, he bangs to the body very well among other things, plus Calzaghes speed really troubled him, and Dawsons just as fast as Calzaghe if not faster, also if the fight took place, more then likely it would be at 175 because Dawsons stated he's LHW, so he'll only fight at LHW, so logically Kessler cant win this fight if it was to happen, and theres a good chance he'd be stopped seeing as Calzaghe had him in trouble more then a few times, and Dawsons bigger and stronger

the last one

#4. As i said ealier the thread, there is no orthodox boxer or fighter who can beat Joe Calzaghe....But Dawson would, because Dawson is not an orthodox boxer or fighter, he's a Southpaw who can box and fight.....and i'll break it down, if Joe starts off the fight with the normal "showboating joe" that comes in square up, with his hands down etc...it'll go just like it did in the begining of Calzaghe-Kessler, he's going to get outboxed, Dawson would tag him with clean effective punches, but even worse then that since Dawson hits harder then Kessler at 175 and has faster hands

but as i said Joes a very smart fighter, so he'll probabbly go to plan B and try to outbox him, and come out more technicacly refined and work behind his jab like he did to destroy Kesslers boxing, and outbox Kessler..... but the problem here is, Dawson is a Southpaw too, so he wont be able to take away Dawsons jab and throw off his rhytm like he did with Kessler for, and if you cant stop the jab you cant stop them from outboxing you

and if they're both boxing, Dawson will outbox Joe no problems because, not only does Dawson have fast hands but, he's got over a 3 inch reach advantage plus about a 3inch height advantage, which means Dawson can land jabs on Calzaghe, without Calzaghe landing jabs on Dawson, no questions asked

so if Calzaghe decides to fight on the outside the fight is as good as Dawsons......but we all know, Calzaghe has great footwork and moves from angle to angle, so he's probabbly more then capable of getting inside of Dawson, and fighting on the inside, so what happens if they're squared up with each other?

once again, Dawson has the edge, he's physically bigger and stronger then Joe Calzaghe, and Dawson can really bang on the inside, as well as throw combonations....and another big factor is Dawsons uppercut, a punch that he throws very well, and if you watch the Kessler fight, everytime Kessler threw it, it found a home....and as you saw in the Jones Jr. fight, Roy landed a big uppercut on Calzaghe, because the way Calzaghe fights on the inside he's open to shots down the middle, this something you can check if you dont believe me

and lastly, Dawson banged inside with Glen Johnson without touching the canvas once, so theres Zero doubt in my mind that Joe can outbang Chad Dawson on the inside

so there you go......anything can happen in a fight but, logically, Joe Calzaghe can not beat Chad Dawson, because we all know styles makes fights and Joes style would not work on Chad Dawson, because he's a southpaw who's, taller, bigger, stronger, and just as fast, if not faster...he just doesn't have the tools to netraulize Dawsons tools, but for anyone who after reading this still think Joe would Beat Chad, i'd like for them to explain why

and not just "Joes throws too many punches" or "Dawsons never fought anyone" or "Joes the number 1 fighter pound for pound and Dawson barely beat Glen Johnson", i wanna here real reasons.....so lets keep it real, were here because we're boxing fans not just fans of this guy or that guy, you gotta be able to look outside "he's my fav. fighter and he beat him so he's gonna win"

but thats how i see it, i like Kessler now, i think he's a great fighter, and Calzaghes an ATG but.....i dont see either of them beating Dawson