Just read that Calzahge turned Hopkins down.

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  1. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    He cited money as the main reason. I am not going to start talking trash here- if he said that the money wasn't right, I will take that at face value. But it is dissappointing. The man ought to realize that he is near the end, and should be working on a legacy. Whereas Eubank, Lacey, adn Kessler aren't bad, it sure would be good for him to have a Hopkins on his record.

    Not counting Hopkins out either.
     
  2. theunderdog

    theunderdog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    from what i read, jc declined because the money was near what he made for kessler, which was unacceptable because a fight against bhop is worth much more. legacy is one thing, but i perfectly understand why jc declined and it is because the risk was far higher than the reward
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    A 43 year old Hopkins isn't going to do anything for anybody's resume because he's totally done, aside from that, Hopkins wanted it for June-July supposedly and probably is demanding a ridiculous sum of money like 15-18 million to fight Joe because he knows at this point it's an assured loss.

    Nobody at 43 is going to beat a P4P elite who is one of the WORST styles for his his current set up possible.

    There is no risk for JC, there is also no legacy points here for JC, as the entire boxing world would see how shot Hopkins is a year after how shot he looked vs. Winky, therefore, wasted time when Joe can fight Woods,Dawson,Erdei and others.
     
  4. Boyd

    Boyd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i like joe and he is a great fighter. but if you go around punking a guy nonstop and then decide not to fight because of money........... he shoud maybe keep his mouth closed a little more. i'm not saying that the offer was something he should have taken, but Bhop has now turned the tables and made it seem like joe is the one backing out.
     
  5. ayala

    ayala Boxing Addict Full Member

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    when you want to add a good name to your resume money shouldn't be your main concern. I feel that he doesn't want to face BHops now by the way BHops doesn't need him on his resume is more like he needs BHops
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    No ****, the Winky fight for the LHW title as a supposed resume mark was absolutely ridiculous, add to the fact that Hopkins looked like **** and then you wonder how anybody thinks that does anything for anybodies resume, a semi-retired old man who has the LHW 'championship' held hostage essentially so he can tool around in the seniors club and make money.

    Hopkins can either retire, or become a goddamn joke like DLH is, a novelty. It's terrible disrespect to real LHW's like Dawson and others for the supposed 'championship' to be able to be passed along in senior's tour fights.

    I donI can;t decie what's more absurd, the fans who think Hopkins at this point has any chance at all vs. Joe, or the fans who claim this will add legacy points to Joe, but will then after the fight protest that Hopkins is shot even though it's plainly obvious that he's OLD now.

    This stuff just annoys me. Bring on Woods and Dawson, two guys with a pulse.
     
  7. HolgerD

    HolgerD Armscontrol Full Member

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    Why don't we all just let the BHOP stuff rest. The man is on pension and should enjoy himself on the senior tour. It is sooooo much more interesting and enjoyable to see Calzaghe fight prime or near-prime fighters!
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Calzaghe knows Hopkins is too risky for someone as overprotected as he's been throughout his career.

    Calzaghe's never beaten anyone worth a squirt of ****.

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  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    So Calzaghe should only be paid 2 million US dollars, while Hopkins makes 15 million as his final cash out instead of beating guys who are still fresh?

    Give me a ****ing break. That's what you call pricing yourself out, it's a useless fight anyway.

    But why argue with a guy who thought Adamek was the next Undisputed LHW champion? Or a guy who took Barrera over Marquez and Pac in 2007.

    You have a limited view on boxing, it's not worth debating.:smoke

    Though, it's not as bad as debating politics with you.:smoke
     
  10. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Eat **** and die, you degenerate scum bag!

    :smoke
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Rumsfeld is not an idiot, he simply just doesn't know what the **** he is talking about in this scenerio, as with most involving the sport of boxing and he speaks as if he's the authority on it.

    With politics, he's just evil.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Please. As if they still aren't both posturing. In the end, Calzaghe is scared shitless at the prospect of losing to Old Man Hopkins. WHY? Simple!

    He loses to Hopkins and his perception of greatness he now celebrates (thanks to delusional fans like yourself) is finished! What happens then? His so-called 'legacy' reverts back to what it was before he became grossly overrated after beating the overhyped Lacy.

    You know I am right on this, you're just afraid to admit it, so instead, you side-step this fact by undermining Hopkins as if he weren't worth Joe's time.

    *YAWN* So says the fanboy who's views on Calzaghe are about as realistic as Ron Paul's chances at winning the White House.

    This further illustrates your own bias. Anyone who took half of my Adamek posts seriously ought to have their head examined. Perhaps hyperbole isn't your forte, but I think referring to him as "The Mighty Adamek" and making outrageous claims that he would 'inevitably usurp Ray Robinson as the #1 P4P fighter of all-time' was a dead give-away.

    :D

    Furthermore, I do not believe I ever stated I thought Barrera would beat Marquez (although I may have). In fact, I wrote a piece called "Don't count Barrera out" not much unlike my "Don't count Hopkins out against Calzaghe" piece.

    As for MAB-Pac II, you are mistaken or literally making **** up.

    I knew MAB was not going to win that one.

    Well, maybe my knowledge is limited. You, however, are a very knowledgable boxing poster which is WHY it's so unbecoming of you to throw your objectivity out the window when it comes to Calzaghe--you're better than that.

    Your posts on him do very little to enhance your credibility. In fact, when someone has the type of credibility you do, your ridiculous posts on this matter only detract from your reputation.

    On that front you're a commie pinko who has no understanding of human nature--just like everyone else who adheres to such nonsensical ideology.

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  13. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes, because my pro-drugs, pro-abortion, pro-prostitution, pro-gambling views fit right in line with the "right wing agenda".

    :roll:
     
  14. scorpy

    scorpy Veni, Vidi, Vici Full Member

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    Anyway, like so many said before... he can turn down an offer without turning down the fight. They were still in negociations last I heard.
     
  15. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Are members of the right traditionally stone cold atheists?

    Please, just shut the **** up and speak not about that which you've no idea.