Just rewatched Cotto vs. Margarito 2

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Oscar is California NY is as home to Cotto as San Juan Puerto Rico.
    Tony had to pay for what he did to Cotto
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because....................



    ?
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I will defend a friend who is the victim of injustice every way I can
    You have a sick mind
     
  4. CST80

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    Just think Cotto legitimately tried to permanently injure and disable Margarito, because he convinced himself Tony cheated to win, that in my opinion since he had zero evidence makes Cotto a bigger piece of **** than Tony.
    And does anyone really think that he would have taken the rematch if he didn't have the injury to exploit. Its obvious that was his strategy from the opening bell.
     
  5. C.J.

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    If you have to ask you are dumber than I thought you were
     
  6. des3995

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    Right. Because revenge set ups always happen.

    Promoters never follow the money. They always jeopardize future earnings by embarking on money depleting vendettas. Who else was in on it?

    Don't be ridiculous. there are 2 types who defend Margarito at this point , those who simply don't know, or those who are simply full of ****.

    Which are you?
     
  7. boxingfan55

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    NO WAY. Its a fight. You obviously go for your opponents weakness. Thats just common sense. Cotto is not at all a piece of **** for targeting the eye. Hell Margarito could have won that first fight fair and square (I think he did and I rate him quite highly) and I still wouldn't consider Cotto a scumbag for doing something so obvious. So now he's only allowed to hit the other side of his face because Margarito comes in with a lingering injury. Are you kidding :nut
     
  8. des3995

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    An article on the subject, back when it happened......


    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...to.suspension/



    An excerpt. from an article.......
    The options available to the California State Athletic Commission ranged from taking no action against Margarito and Capetillo to a fine, suspension, or revocation of their respective licenses (the maximum penalty under law). In the event of revocation, either man would be free to reapply after one year with no guarantee of reinstatement. An irrevocable permanent ban was not an available option.

    At the close of the February 10, 2009, hearing, the commission voted to revoke each man’s license. It made no finding that Margarito had knowledge of the inserts, but held him responsible for Capetillo’s actions. In so doing, it relied on Boxing Rule 390 of the California Code of Regulations, which states, “Any licensee who conducts himself or herself at any time or place in a manner which is deemed by the commission to reflect discredit to boxing may have his or her license revoked, or may be fined, suspended, or otherwise disciplined in such manner as the commission may direct.”

    In making its determination, the CSAC imposed a doctrine of “strict liability” upon Margarito. That’s similar to the position that most commissions take when a fighter tests positive for an illegal performance enhancing drug. A fighter, the theory goes, is a professional athlete. He’s responsible for his body and his equipment. If someone who works for him puts something illegal into his body or on his hands, the fighter should be held ultimately responsible.


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    Quotes regarding the case from the inspectors.........



    License inspector Mike Bray was called to testify and to reiterate what was found on the hand wraps–which he said looked “moist and dirty looking.

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    “I immediately retrieved it. I believe it was an illegal pad–it needed to be confiscated. I observed what appeared to be a bloodstain. It was not new and their was a white substance smeared across the knuckles. It was hard to the touch–like Plaster of Paris.”- Mike Bray, License Inspector


    CSAC inspector David Pereda, who was in the room, later testified, “Naazim opened the gauze and pulled something out of it. He showed us what appeared to be an old gauze which had been used before and hardened from perhaps being sweaty and wet many times.”


    Inspector Guevara testified, “It [the knuckle pad] was a clean new bandage. But within it, in the inner layers of it, was another bandage wrap. It was not as white as a new bandage wrap would be. It was used and it looked almost like it was sweat soaked and that’s what caused it to have the discoloration. It was harder in certain areas than it should be for pure gauze. It was definitely firm and hard. I believe there was a little bit of, it looked like old blood, on it.”



    “No doubt then, no doubt now. The wraps I found had the knuckle pad altered in some form. They were hard. I didn’t think twice when I pulled them out as illegal.” - Dean Lohuis, Chief Inspector





    Actual footage from the hearing showing where and how the insert was hidden in the illegal knucklepad........
    http://home.comcast.net/~antwuanmax/boxing/chester-cheato.gif
     
  9. CST80

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    If he was a true champion, and believed he could beat Tony fair and square, why didn't choose the more honorable route, he needed a handicap so he exploited a handicap.
     
  10. C.J.

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    WRONG!!!! the ones that attack Margarito are the ones full of ****
    The others that support him know the truth. Show me one iota of proof Margarito EVER cheated. You cannot , POS Richardson cannot, the bumbling corrupt CSAC cannot. Because he did not cheat
     
  11. Just Rik

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    Does C.J. stand for Circle Jerk??
     
  12. ufcpacman

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    I felt that in the second fight the difference was in the exchange of power. In the first fight, Margarito's punches made Margarito's point by round four. Second fight? None of his punches did ANYthing. At very best, Margarito barely began to make an impact in the final two rounds. I forgot when it was stopped but believe it was round 10? So Margarito hadn't made a dent, and an extremely marginal one if one at all, only by rounds 8 and 9? Cotto's punches were clearly hurting Margarito in the second fight whereas in thefirst fight Cotto was unable to fully deter Margarito.

    I personally feel it to be suspect the difference in Margarito's punches in that first Cotto fight and that second Cotto fight. I personally believe that Margarito probably had been doing something fishy considering the unnatural amount of damage he did to Cotto in that first fight. I also feel that Margarito was truly shot and past it in this fight and so his punches had less snap on them ANYway and he was getting more easily wobbled than ever before.

    I believe this to be the only fight that Margarito had where he was truly shot. I personally feel that, Cotto I and Shane Mosley aside, Manny Pacquiao really did an inordinate amount of damage on Antonio Margarito. At least, I feel that his punch resistance was only ever shot in that second Cotto fight and that was thanks to that Pacquiao beating.
     
  13. des3995

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    I have no problem if you want to believe that Capetillo did what he did without Margarito knowing. If that's what you want to believe go right ahead. Was Capetillo in on this international conspiracy to get back at Antonio Margarito for beating Miguel Cotto?

    But none of the testimony, quotes, evidence seem to hold any weight for you. But you'll believe Margarito. Sounds legit.

    I notice you have no response to my post with all the quotes, and the gif.......


    I wonder why.
     
  14. finalfight

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    Welcome to yet another member's ignore list.
     
  15. frank_hammer

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    Margarito was on his way to beating cotto