Like I say if they are to be dismissed as "irrelevant" then we may as well just stop discussing fights. I wonder if it would still be "irrelevant" it if it had happened to one of the "cool" fighters? Like maybe Cotto last weekend? They'd be murder on here of those deductions had if cost Cotto the Margo fight. (Been spending too much time on the General jpab?)
Who said they should be dismissed, exactly? You appear to be reading something different to everyone else here. Why would I call them ''irrelevant'' in relation to the fight? They were in direct correlation with the victory ffs, what would be the sense in that? Again, Vano's post nails it, they were relevant to the fight, duh. How harsh they were isn't all that to me, they weren't even as bad as the ''knockdown'' in the first. If that's a reason to halt all discussion about any fight ever................. Lots of people are calling the deductions strident, that is a moot point for me. Khan wasn't allowed to do what he was doing, was warned, kept doing it, was deducted points. That's how it works. Doesn't matter all that much if they were ''harsh'' because the referee appeared to be less lenient than others. If he knew it was going to happpen - and he did - then he shouldn't have continued to do so. It's not like the ref deducted points after the first offence, Khan was given plenty of leeway. And I don't think I have been spending that much time on the general at all, never mind too much, seeing as last time I looked Khan appeared to be getting a decent backing from most.:think So I doubt the opinions of the majority there could've infiltrated my thought process and led me to this conclusion. Some kind of reverse psychology? Is that what the general is now, just a mind****-driven sub-forum? Who gives a **** if people would be up in arms over Cotto? There's plenty of people up in arms over the events of last night, surely that makes Khan a fellow ''cool'' fighter? Or is there some kind of positivity-negativity ratio that I'm not aware of? If Cotto was warned countless times for numerous fouls then a deduction would be warranted, same as here. Hence making how harsh they were of little importance.
John Murray was deducted a point against Rios after one foul which didn't look all that bad. Khan was given ample chances IMO. And I repeat, I wanted Khan to win
WFT on you on about? You call them irrelevent, they arn't. Not in any meaning of the word. They are a key point in the fight and decided the outcome. Spin the rest how you want... The General comment was aimed at your last post which read like the work of a hormonal 13 year old.
The deductions were fully deserved, Amir has to realize that he was cheating, was warned loads of times and he lost the fight. I cant imagine any other sport where blatently cheating consistently, right in front of the ref would be tolerated. Khans a pretty dirty fighter to be honest...hopefully he'll learn from his mistakes and develop his inside game, the bitching Khan was doing after the fight was worse than the constant McCloskey complaints after that fight.
:shock: Gaz, I am truly shocked and to think I always thought of you as being amongst the most laid back poster on here. Good on ya lad :yep
I was expecting Peterson to be warned at least once for constant low blows but nothing happened, go figure. The pushing is a difficult one...the ref should have broken them rather than telling them to work out...Peterson was lolling constantly without doing anything so got pushed off. It happens in every single fight and I can't ever remember points being taken for it, not in those circumstances at least. The alarm bells went off for me with the ref at the pre fight instructions, came over as a bit of a fruit loop.
I really don't want to suck jpabs nutsack. I though it was worth being a bit bolshy to make that absolutely clear to him. I'm also a bit annoyed because my dog has just ate the "a", "f" and the ";" keys off my laptop keyboard so I have to type on the rubber membrane until I can get a new one!
:rofl Yeah but it was pretty ****ing funny. (I paraphrase) There's been no boxing in Washington for twenty years, now I know why. Khan was an a little guttersnipe though.
Erm, no I didn't. I said whether or not they were ''harsh'' or not was. That's not spinning it at all in fact, especially seeing as I never ''dismissed'' them as you seem to be adament that I did. I never said they weren't relevant full stop, I specified that. When I agree with what Vano said, and then reiterate that point, where I say that I didn't insinuate that they weren't relevant to the fight and it's outcome, why do you then continue to preach about the fact I said it was irrelavant? When in fact I just quelled that point? You're going in circles here, and seem to be failing to comprehend what I'm saying, unlike everyone else. If you do get what I'm saying then I haven't got a clue why you keep saying the same pointless thing over and over. Are you really lacking in an ability to detect sarcasm to that extent? I was being pretty light-hearted, which I'm still trying to be here. That you're being so obtuse and grumpy isn't exactly assisting that though.
I remember seeing one low blow. And ive watched it twice :think The pushing does happen all the time, but Amir was constantly warned about it last night, and yet continued to do it. I dont think fighters should be broken the second they go in close
For want of a better comparison I'd say its quite similar to Balotelli's sending off the other week. People can argue till the cows come home that they were soft bookings etc, but at the end of the day by the letter of the law they were bookings, just as Khan's were fouls and the referee had the right to deduct the points. Back to the drawing board for Roach and Khan i'm afraid, unless Oscar now picks the officials very carefully.