Just rewatched the first 6 Rounds . . .

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Watching the first four rounds, I have a difficult time scoring any of those for Gennady. I mean, the first round was a feel out round, close but Canelo laned the cleaner punches.

    Round 2, Clear Canelo round. Round 3 another clear Canelo round. Round 4, don't see how you can give this round to G. When Canelo went to the ropes, G didn't land anything, Canelo landed the better punches in the round. Canelo was boxing beautifully in this round. After the 4th, Abel Sanchez tells G to feint and motions for him to throw a punch to the body when Canelo gets to the ropes, suggesting that G wasn't doing that in the 4th, which he wasn't.

    Re-watching it I have Canelo up 40-36 after 4 rounds, and I challenge anybody to argue otherwise. G landed nothing noteworthy in the 4th round, Canelo was making him miss, and coming back with quality punches.

    Now lets go to the 5th round, Canelo once again was having his way with G for the first 2 minutes of the round. G would get a shot here or there, but Canelo was just beating him to the punch, landing the harder punches. Then G appeared to get in a uppercut to the chest / neck area of Canelo with 1:08 left in the round. Canelo goes back to the ropes, and G lands a pretty good jab then a straight right that clips Canelo, Canelo counters with a hard straight right hand, then with 1:00 left in the round G lands that big right hand with about a minute left in the 5th round. That may have been G's best punch of the fight.

    That's when the fight started heating up, but for the first half of the 5th, like the preceding 4 rounds, Canelo was having his way with G. I've seen a lot of people giving G the 4th round, but I Just don't see it.

    And even the 5th, G had those moments with Canelo on the ropes, those were the biggest punches of the round, but still I thought the overall work rate of Canelo in the 5th for the majority of that round. That said, I can see scoring the 5th for G with those momentum-turning punches. He finally landed a big punch on Canelo, he did in the 5th what he couldn't do in the 4th.

    The point here is that while G landed those bombs in the 5th, it wasn't like G dominated the 5th. It was stil an extremely close round, with G winning it because of that moment with about a minute left in the round. If G didn't land that huge right hand, I probably give the round to Canelo.

    Many people are acting like G dominated rounds 4-9 it's complete fantasty. Canelo won the 4th, it was close but he landed the better punches. G couldn't land anything in the 4th with Canelo on the ropes. It wasn't until a minute left in the 5th that G turned the tide with those punches. I challenge anybody who scored the 4th round to G to rewatch it. Even with G getting the 5th round, I have it 49-46 Canelo after 5 rounds.

    Now in the 6th round, G started to assert himself, G came out and backed Canelo up to the ropes, landed some straight right hands. Canelo fired back with some combos, and Canelo did the hard uppercut. This was another close round, but I do think G won this round.

    It's not like rounds 5 and 6 were completely dominated by Gennady or anything, but yeah sure he won those rounds by stalking Canelo getting him back in the ropes and landing the better punches in these rounds.

    Now before we get into the second half of the fight, I just want to say that I have Canelo winning the first 4 rounds and Gennady winning 5 and 6. I really want to hear from Gennady fans on this, specifically regarding the 4th round that many seem to just have given to Gennady. Rounds 3 and 4 are swing rounds. Maybe a lot of people just gave G the 4th seeing Canelo on the ropes, but G didn't land anything of note in that round. I urge Triple G fans to take another look at the 4th round and really be honest about who deserved to win that round. If you give Canelo the first 4 rounds and the last 3 that's 7 rounds to Canelo. And I haven't even gone through rounds 7-9 yet.
     
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  2. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Try hard Canelo fan... watch it with your eyes open next time... oh and take off those Canelo-tinted glasses, that may help. :thumbsup:
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eyes wide open. Canelo swept the first four 4 rounds, and won the last 3 rounds. (maybe one other round, will have to take a look at 7-9 again) I challenge you to argue otherwise. 7-5 or 8-4 Canelo.
     
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    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lol... I don't have to argue with a fanboy. Most people scored it for GGG, literally only Canelo, his mum and his promoters scored it for him...:bananaride
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And Chavez Sr "Canelo won clearly" lmao.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You know, it's not a popularity contest. I am happy to be in the minority. I don't subscribe to group think. People suffer from confirmation bias. The bottom line is you don't want to discuss the rounds, like round 4. You just want to pretend G won. He didn't land anything. Show me G's best punches in the 4th, provide timestamps. I'll be waiting.
     
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  7. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you're going to argue with him, why don't you explain why GGG won the rounds you disagree with. When you have to resort to name calling you're just telling everyone you have no argument.
     
  8. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oh yes a Mexican... saying Canelo won clearly lol... ask any Kazakh who they thought won... in fact most of the Mexican fans booed Canelo :meparto:
     
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    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What's to argue with? It's already been argued to death and there are only a few delusional people on here who actually think Canelo won... it's laughable.
     
  10. shadow111

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    How did you have it ellerbe? I'd be interested to hear your card.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    There's plenty to argue with. He broke down his rounds and challenged people to bring up why they thought that GGG won that round. Instead of calling people names and making excuses on why you don't want to actually bring up anything related to an actual debate, either put up or stfu.
     
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  12. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's nothing to discuss, I scored it as I seen it and I stand by 116-112 GGG. It's funny seeing all the Canelo fans trying to put forth pathetic arguments on how Canelo won... cry me a river.
     
  13. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Round 1 I had it 10-10 2-3 Canelo. 4-9 GGG. 10. Canelo. 11. GGG. 12 Canelo. I didn't re-watch it though. From my recollection Canelo won his rounds more clearly though, and you probably could make some arguments between 4-9 for Canelo. I also picked GGG to win, so I might have had some bias.
     
  14. Dfaulds

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    lol he broke down his rounds with bias... no point arguing against it as people like him (Blizzy, Dino etc) just like to troll.

    As I said, I scored it 116-112. I felt GGG outworked Canelo most of the fight and aside from the odd flashy shot Canelo did very little to win the rounds.
     
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  15. Nazarene

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    you forgot about the 4 piece combination that canelo landed through and around GGG's guard near the end of the 5th round that backed GGG up
     
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