Just Saw Haye vs Ruiz and Haye has no chance vs Wladimir

yeah, thats fair enough mate. but im sure that every person can think of a reason of why their training camps could have been optimised in some way or another.

4 weeks of not sparing can have the same effect on a boxer as, lets say for arguements sake, a personal mental block they may have, comprimising their training. like their wife on her period or some ****.

thats just excuses mate! haye didnt look sharp enough to dodge wlads jabs nor his rights. Some might say you cant compare ruiz to wlad etc. Or that the only reason ruiz did catch haye a bit was because haye was being lax, or ruiz's timing was good or speed etc. But the bottom line is that wlad is a far bigger, stronger, faster, more intelligent boxer than ruiz. And if we use the ruiz fight and previous fights as a barometer, i pick wlad any day of the week.

He aint ready yet- IMO he has the tools but to beat wlad he would need a top proven trainer to teach him some grade A head movement and footwork.

Thats my '2 cents', i aint an expert but i do love boxing haha :good

 

I've never liked Haye's chances against the Klitschko brothers and I still don't. He might be able to bomb out Wlad early with a right hand but I would pick against it to happen. Haye's chin isn't that good and his stamina is nothing special. His defense isn't that great either, he gets sloppy, and he'll be at a height and reach disadvantage. Wlad, who's great at controlling the distance, will pick him apart from the outside with his jab and right hand.

 

If Haye improved his defence then the fight would be much more competitive. As it stands, Wlad's jab is too dominant, right's too prominent, David's left too dormant, chin is absent, footwork important, but size too different...-ant.

 

Haye def. is not ready, Ruiz was able to land imagine what any of the brothers could do esp. towards the end of the fight. I could see Haye land a few in the beginning, but slowly getting broken down towards the end.

 

Haye VS either Klit is a long way off, mark my words.

 

If Wlad had to move around with Haye with the style he showed during the Ruiz fight.... I dont know if Wlad could keep up with that footpace.

Im just not sure. Footwork really truly goes a long ****ing way in this sport.

 

:rofl

 

I don't think Haye's ready to beat either of them.

Thing is he might, and I think at least he'd try, or go down swinging. Unlike a few recent opponents.

But anyone that thinks Haye would fight Ruiz like he would fight Wlad or Vitlay is mental. It was clear Haye thought he was going to win pretty easy, and didn't have a great deal to worry about in taking Ruiz's shots, and he fought that way.

Still think he'd lose, but if anyone thinks he'd fight in exactly the same manner against either brother knows absolutely ****ing nothing.

 

Don`t talk bull**** about Haye. He have the best management right now. Of course they did`nt let him to risk with Klitschkos and was better soulution to fight Valuev first. Haye have a lot knoweldge and boxing skills to beat everyone. He is fast, strong, good stamina, hard punch, what else need to have to beat Klitschko.

Haye is smart and will fight first Vitali. This fight will happen in the end of year ....

 

Oh how I'm gonna enjoy this thread when Haye beats a Klitschko.

Although I guess excuses will still be made by the Klitschko fans.

Speed kills.

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No he is not , he is a racist of the worst kind. If Haye had been white he would have had his tongue up his ass...
I have been writing on this forum since 02, and I have never seen Farmboxer say one kind word about a black fighter ever......!!!

 

Damn right son, say no to drugs! :good

 

Well Haye has stated he wants to fight either one of the sisters next. All this crap about Haye chickening out is just that crap. But I guess some people on here have problems comprehending facts.

I honestly think Haye versus either sister is a 50/50 fight. If Haye connects on the glass that is Wlad's jaw then it is a curtains. The other sister obviously is more durable, but I think Haye could keep him at bay for 12 rounds as he is too quick.

What makes these 50/50 fights is the fact that Haye hasn't exactly got the best chin either. But it is not as glassy as Wlad's.

 

1 Completley different fighters and styles.

2 yet has won 2 heavyweight titles, i think the guy knows what hes doing.

3 talking out of your ass there, i would like to see when Haye was hurt once.

4. and Ruiz never does it himself does he, Haye threw one very silly punch to the back of the head, the rest were due to Ruiz turning his head.

5 give me a break.

6 Haye is nothing like Peter, hes far better.

7 I guess 4 weeks of not sparring had nothing to do with that.

8 He stopped Ruiz in the 9th round and rocked Valuev in the 12th, his stamina aint great but his power is still there regardless.