Just Saw Mancini-Kim For The First Time....

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had not watched this fight by design. I had read all about how it had been a very good fight, but knowing what had happened I simply didn't want to do it. Couldn't bring myself to watch it.

    I've seen Sugar Ramos-Davey Moore.......that too was a great battle. I knew what had happened before I watched it, and I felt a bit sadistically voyeuristic in having done so, so I had refrained from watcing this one.

    I have to say, the person that posted this on youtube had the class to end the feed with Mancini's celebration immediately after the KO, and so I didn't see Kim slump in his corner, never to awaken. Nice touch of class there. Well played.

    It was indeed a terrific fight. Kim belonged in there, jarring Mancini repeatedly with left crosses. Once the fight got into the championship rounds, though, he began to tire, and Ray's experience and strength began to show. Then, very early in the 14th round, before they could settle back into that awkward rhythm they had employed throughout, Mancini hurt Kim with a combination and then fired a right hand with all his weight behind it. It landed flush.

    Kim went down but was barely able to rise, and Richard Steele correctly waved it off. The rest we all know.

    I'm not sure how I feel about having watched it. I ended up watching it because I knew it was a true watershed moment in modern boxing history, and I should be able to speak to it beyond what I'd read. I suppose I can do that now, but feel no enrichment for having done so.
     
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  2. DaveK

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    I have never watched the fight for the same reason, even though it's in my library of fights...
    I agree with the point of watching something not neccesarily because you want to, but to be able to speak of it with your own words or knowledge.
    There are tons of fights in my "to watch" list that I still haven't watched for whatever reason and plan on watching to be able to say I've seen it and speak about it owning the knowledge and experience.
     
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  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, you nailed it. Wasn't something I really wanted to do, but felt it was necessary. Glad I did, in a way. It felt more like a job than anything, but in its own narrow way, it was a great testimony to the bravery of both men. One just happened to be unlucky. I saw nothing aggregious about the fight. Sometimes bad **** just happens. Kim was not mismatched, the fight was stopped properly.......it shouldn't have happened, but it did.
     
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  4. di tullio

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    I've never watched it, but I feel like I have.
     
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  5. DaveK

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    I plan on doing some homework on some fights tonight- I got Pabst Blue Ribbon beer to add to the nostalgia of the evening. On the roster is Gomez-Pintor which I'm ashamed not to have watched yet (although I'm familiar with many of Gomez' other fights), Sanchez-Lopez I, and a distance Don Curry, McCallum, or Napoles fight...
     
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  6. salsanchezfan

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    Aw man! Please do us the favor of writing up what you thought of Gomez-Pintor! Please! Dude, that fight is one of the best things you'll ever see.......Pintor just gobbles up punch after punch and comes back to have Gomez wondering why he chose this as his profession. Awesome, awesome fight.
     
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  7. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know exactly how you feel.
     
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  8. MRBILL

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    Christ.... People..... Go ahead and watch the goddamn tape..... WTF?

    "Mancini-Kim" was not a total mismatch like several folks out here in ESB-VILLE seem to think... The fight was a heated contest and a war of wills.... Granted, Kim's # 1 WBA ranking was questionable, but Kim fought like a solid WBA contender against Ray Mancini...

    Mancini and Kim were pretty even on my card after 10 rds. But Mancini with his strength and conditioning began to take control of the fight in round 11... All in all, Kim was finished and his corner should've tossed in the towel after round 13.... Kim had nothing left in the tank at the start of round 14, and that is what got him killed... Kim had no strength or zip left in his body when Mancini landed that wicked combo that knocked Kim on his back and basically out of the fight.... **** happens..... Still, it was a helluva fight.......

    MR.BILL
     
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  9. salsanchezfan

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    Terrific, thanks Bill.
     
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  10. boxkickboxmma

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    I watched it, and have never watched it since. There's strange feeling when seeing a fight like this, can't describe it. It makes me feel so uncomfortable. It really reminds me of the Gerald McClellan-Nigel Benn fight. I had this same feeling then.
     
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  11. salsanchezfan

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    Yup; kinda makes you feel guilty, y'know?
     
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  12. DaveK

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    I'm with that- there is a different feeling watching fights you know end in tragedy- maybe one of these nights I'll do a tragedy double-header with those...

    But for tonight, as a third bout, how does Curry-Starling I sound? Worth watching?
     
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  13. apollack

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    Very good fight. Unfortunate ending. Bottom line is it happens, as it does in many many sports for various reasons, and many professions other than sports. Deaths in boxing are statistically negligible and not egregious by any means to the point where they needed to do away with the 15-round fight. Kim fought an honorable and gritty fight that was no shame to the sport.
     
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  14. salsanchezfan

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    Never seen that one; haven't seen it on youtube yet.
     
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  15. dodong

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    I watched the fight when it was originally televised, never had any desire to watch it again.

     
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