Just spent 2 hours watching Ray Robinson and...

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  1. icanmanifest

    icanmanifest Member Full Member

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    Just watched a couple hours of Ray Robinson, hadn't really ever seen him fight much.. watched him fighting Jake LaMotta and a couple others..

    Sorry, but Mayweather would completely have dominated Ray Robinson... (he reminds me alot of Mosley in style)

    and Pacquiao.. well he would have seriously hurt these guys. It's the way of life, there's supposed to be evolution and growth and progression. But I have no clue where anyone, after honest analysis, would think Ray Robinson was the all time best P4P... I don't see that at all...

    If you're going by number of fights, or frequency of fights, or whatever.. ok it was way different then... but 1 to 1, following a complete training camp.. sorry but May easily outskills these guys, and Pac seriously out speeds and hurts them.
     
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  2. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    i guess 2 hrs on youtube definitely qualifies you to make those statements that dispute about a zillion other boxing people's opinion
     
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  3. TommyV

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    Another boring 'boxing has evolved' thread? Thought so. Robinson would beat the **** out of Mayweather & Pacquiao.
     
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  4. Dio

    Dio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    idk about that...
     
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  5. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Keep watching then...you'll come around.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Oh wow, you watched TWO WHOLE HOURS of Ray Robinson?

    OK, you're definitely an expert. He'd get KTFO in a single round by Mayweather or Pacquiao, sho'nuff.
     
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  7. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Yup, Wlad Klitschko would beat a prime Foreman too i suppose

    Evolution and all that.

    How stupid do you sound...
     
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  8. icanmanifest

    icanmanifest Member Full Member

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    Well if i'm wrong tell me where? He isn't more technically skilled... he was getting hit way too often... he didn't look like he had crushing power... he wasn't throwing blazing combinations... he has great footwork.. moves good... his D doesn't look special...
    what am I missing here?
    Point me in the right direction....

    And if Emmanual Steward can watch 30 seconds of a fight and make a determination... someone with a lifetime of boxing viewing and experience can make educated assesments after a couple of hours of viewing
     
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  9. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your probably right... the more people have passed in history the higher they are revered... it happens... in about 300 years people will talk about how good mayweather was
     
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  10. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    There goes your creditability there...Im calling bull****. You watched only 2 mins didnt you? :good
     
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  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Robinson threw outrageous combination's, and he had enough power to knockout the likes of Graziano and Fulmer with single shots. The guy was extra-ordinary, I can only recommend you invest more time in Youtube and specifically Ray Robinson.
     
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  12. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bad troll.
     
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  13. TommyV

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    Can make educated assessments, and yet he doesn't have crushing power. How about you go and watch him knock out iron-chinned Gene Fullmer with a single left-hook while going backwards.

    He is more technically skilled, offensively he had everything. He is a better composite puncher than anybody either Mayweather or Pacquiao has ever faced, neither of them would deal with the combination of speed, power, precision, timing and angles. Are you saying he couldn't throw combinations aswell? :lol:
     
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  14. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    robinson fought la motta at 160. pac would ko robinson because srr was broke and arum would give him 5 mil to fight pac but only at a weight drained 142 lbs
     
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  15. Dio

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    Rob could KO some one moving back with ether hand.
     
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