Just watched Chuvalo-Quarry... B.S. Stoppage?

thought you meant foreman, my bad

 

chuvalo never fought ron lyle

 

BigJake,

The last 4 posts are all messed up.
TommyGunn711 thought I was talking about George Foreman, not
George Chuvalo.

Now I know why I never saw George Chuvalo in the ring with Ron Lyleatsch
Where's Gordon Racette when you need him

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

It was a good stoppage.....

 

Jerry was the heavy-betting favorite that night.
The Irish-backed boxing fans in Madison Square Garden started a near riot at
fights end (stoppage).
They would have only been happy, if Jerry was completely destroyed.
Jerry lost alot of fans that night, and George gained a few.

 

I wonder why a rematch never happened. I'd bet the house that a vengeful, sharp and focused Quarry would win a very wide decision, and with discipline, would put on a boxing show like he did vs Lyle...and I'm aware that Lyle and Chuvalo had nothing in common..and even possibly stopping George on a tko, by busting up Chuvalo's eyes and face...a tko by 8 or 9. Quarry was capable of boxing smart, and in a fight where he was "disintegrating" the fight wore on, and training on booze, he still managed to bust up Chuvalo quite well. Interesting to think about what would happen in a rematch, with someone like Gil Clancy as his trainer. The difference between Quarry and Chuvalo, fluke ko loss notwithstanding, could be measured by their respective performances against Buster Mathis.

 

As for the actual fight, I agree that Chuvalo just landed a big shot, and Quarry made a tactical misatake by taking that knee, and screwed up by missing the count by a milisecond...it was a fluke ko, IMO.

 

red c,

Shockingly, Jerry Quarry was only 24 at the time, and considered on the
down-side of his career.
New York newspapers labeled him as 'washed-up', after the Chuvalo fight.
Way too many amateur fights, too many tough fights in the gym, too many
wars in the ring, and mismanaged.
George Chuvalo caught him on the right night, when he was primed to quit in
the ring.

 

But he came back to fight two of his arguably best fights...both in '73..vs Lyle and Shavers. I say that Quarry was a bit of a head case and with the guidance of his best trainer, Clancy, throughout his career, he would have been an over all better fighter. Of course much would have depended on whether under Clancy that he would have his head screwed on tighter.

 

RED C,

Actually after the Chuvalo fight, Jerry fought and nearly got knocked-out in the
1st Round by a Rufus Brassell, a decent heavyweight that who had not fought in
about 10 months, and was hoping to add Jerry to his resume'.
Then struggled with tough-journeyman George Johnson.

Jerry was brought back to Madison Square Garden in 1970, to be the punching-bag for
#1 rated Mac Foster 24-0-0 (24 KO's).
They brought him in, because of the way he had looked in previous fights.
Jerry ruined that party.

 

when fighting a guy as tough as chuvalo anything can happen.as long as chuvalo was around he had a change of winning,the guy was never knocked down as a pro ,in sparring sessions or as an amateur.he even ko'd 3 fights on the same night in a jack dempsey tourament in the 50's

bigjake

 

Big J,

Wasn't George Chuvalo supposed to fight one Arnie Brower in Portand, Maine before the
Jerry Quarry fight, possibly in October 1969.
There was an article in the Hartford Journal about a possible fight, for the
so-called 'North-Atlantic Heavyweight Championship'
Arnie was a small but half-way decent Heavyweight out of Connecticut.
Was riding a pretty good record at the time, over 'C' rated heavyweights.

 

Big J,

Found the September article about George Chuvalo having a possible fight with
Arnie Brower (22-3-2) in October 1969.
For the 'North-Atlantic Heavyweight Championship', in Portland, Maine.
Chuvalo was to get 50% of the 'live gate', plus expenses.
Brower was to get $2500 and 7% of the 'live gate'.

Arnie Brower took a quick tune-up in Detroit, before their match, and got
Knocked-out by Willie Tiger.
Willie Tiger got the next fight with George, after the Quarry-Chuvalo fight.