Just watched Fury Wilder again

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  1. Bigdog2002

    Bigdog2002 Member Full Member

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    I just watched it again!!! Fury did school him actually! Was rooting for wilder but he got owned!
     
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  2. Darxide

    Darxide Active Member Full Member

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    I was hoping and expecting a Wilder win going into it, but the only way to pick that fight for Wilder or as a draw is with a massive dose of delusional bias. Also I think the vast majority shared/share that view. Fury won the fight, we all know why they gave Wilder the draw.. thats the boxing money business unfortunately.
     
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  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Really...that's a cool theory, so can you tell me the clear Fury rounds, like specifically which rounds did this domination occur?
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    You came up with the word DOMINATION he never used it,

    Stop denying the truth by putting words in other people’s mouths you sick piece of garbage.
     
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  5. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 28-0 WBC Peoples Champ + Lineal Full Member

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    Comment was more to do with the nearly ended his career and life, Steve Cunningham hit him harder tbh. Wilder usually gets wave off TKO's once he "stepped up" to fringe level. When has Donkey got KO's like say Whyte has got last 2 out of 3?? Got lucky against the Polish Soccer Holigan who has a Khan type jaw..

    I would debate how competitive the fight was given Fury pretty much did a low output shut out most rounds. Wilder flayed around like a fish out of water and because of Fury's size and strength he could negate that flaying that other smaller boxers can't..

    It really was only Fury's showboating that caused the 2 knock downs..
     
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  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For sure although I wasn't particularly talking about who's better,merely pointing out a close fight with Jacob's v Golovkin where the knockdown counted towards the win for GGG.
    Says something about Fury and how good he is when he gets dropped twice and still should of won by some margin,that's crazy?
     
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  7. Liquorice

    Liquorice Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How many rounds did Wilder win?
     
  8. CarlChilders

    CarlChilders Member Full Member

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    Who cares? The point is Fury didn't do jack and Wilder didn't do jack. Because Fury did slightly more than Wilder didn't mean he won or dominated.
     
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  9. Liquorice

    Liquorice Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You. You have replied twice & cited punch stats & a rant about small HWs & Euros..

    Punch stats aren't the be all & end all though.. & nor are they infallible. But even if those are correct, do they take into account defense & ring generalship? Accurate punching? Effective aggression? Is it really accurate on those things? Can u really get a true idea of how effective somebody is at neutralizing the opponent from them? They do show Wilder missing a lot more shots than Fury did tho, I'll give them that...

    That's Fury though. Great spoiler, switch hitter etc.. If anyone could be used as an example of how NOT TO BE too over reliant on punch stats to get an accurate assessment of how a fight went, it's Fury!

    I'll take your refusal to give your rounds as an acknowledgement of this pumpkin ;)
     
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  10. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    I haven't seen the fight since it aired originally. I think Tyson was close to 90% fit for the fight ( some have said 40%?!). I gave Deontay the first round, cuz I don't score mugging for the cameras, I've stated how I score fights on here before, and there is a strong emphasis on clean effective punching for me. Tyson did very little in many of the rounds other than juke and jive, and land maybe 2 or three more punches per round and I think it's possible for an objective viewer to allow for the possibility that Deontay could have won a couple of other rounds based on doing more effective punching. Crying robbery in a 12 rd fight where one fighter was on the canvas twice is irrational. You're expecting far too much from such a subjective sport that is judged by 3 different people with 3 different views. They all see a different fight to some degree.

    It looked to me like Deontay had figured out how to land the combo by the end of the fight. He was trying to land that combo earlier and was missing. He made the adjustment and put the man down. People were too swayed by the Tyson narrative, big comeback from drug/self abuse etc...Given that the fight was in Deontay's home country and that Tyson was on the mat twice, a draw result is conceivable is it not.? I think Tyson should have won the fight by 1 point, but I'm not gutted by it.

    If Tyson ever gets back in the ring with Deontay again he gets KO'd. Summer 2020 maybe, but I'm not holding my breath. I think this rematch doesn't happen while they are both relevant.
     
  11. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had 2 minutes left in the round to finish the job and actually ended up being driven back by Fury, so I doubt he'd figured much out at all.
     
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  12. BoxingABC1

    BoxingABC1 WE ARE FIREMEN, THE HEAT DOESN'T BOTHER US Full Member

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    Wilder can barely figure out how to speak, let alone Tyson Fury lol
     
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  13. Hitsthehardest

    Hitsthehardest New Member Full Member

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    Only watched it once.
    A few hours after it aired.
    From what i remember there wasnt that "much" in the fight.
    With the 2 knockdowns a draw wasnt that bad a decision.
    Definitely not a robbery in any way shape or form.
     
  14. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Active Member Full Member

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    You're comment is narrow minded. You think maybe it's possible he suffered a massive adrenaline dump having floored his man for the second time with pretty much the same combo, thinking the fight was over, and then got a little over anxious. Fury was outboxing Deontay all night and continued to after the kds, but Deontay never gave up on himself, he believed he could win until the very end. Pretty bad for Fury to get knocked down by such a limited boxer as Deontay, not once but twice with the same combo, but you don't see it that way I'm sure, just a lucky punch as they say. Why didn't the master boxer that is Tyson Fury learn to read Deontay and see those predictable combos coming? Could it be possible that Deontay was making adjustments to land the combo?
     
  15. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has far too many late knockouts for them to be flukes and whilst I had Fury winning he would know more than anyone to survive or win the last round and he'd win but he let Wilder off the hook and Wilder took it.
     
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