Just watched Margarito/Clottey...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Beenie, Apr 21, 2008.


  1. Keihule

    Keihule Active Member Full Member

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    I think the loss to Williams made margo a more defensivly aware fighter, more mature. Granted, he still has some defensive problems, but they were nowhere near as bad as they were in the clottey fight.

    Margarito won that fight clearly, but he hits harder now, and has improved his defense.

    As for clottey, he is a good fighter, he is going to keep kicking around journeymen until he can get his hands on an ABC belt, then his situation might get interesting.
     
  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    So, you had Clottey somehow edgeout the ninth despite being trapped in a corner for about a minute, eating punches from Margarito and unable to get out. Only having an effect on Margarito with two or three hard, but unaffecting, combinations, while Margarito landed several punches, and among them devestating body punches and uppercuts that made Clottey's head pop up and back causing Clottey to do nothing but clinch when the opportunity arose and basically survive the round.

    Then he went back to his corner and predictably talked about how he hurt his left hand, despite the majority of his work in the 9th and 8th rounds that scored effectively were hard left hooks that he seemed to throw without flinching.

    Yeah, he might have hurt his hand, but if he did it's because Margarito was tagging his hands in the beggining of the fight with hard right hands and because of the way Clottey was blocking, they were bound to wear his hands down as the fight went on.

    But is that really an excuse, if it was the other fighter that caused your hands to "allegedly" become broken, even though it was later revealed that they were not fractured and at the end of the fight when the gloves came off, it seemed that Margarito's hands were more damaged than Clottey's.

    Clottey lost that fight because he basically has no jab, is completely ineffective from the outside, considering all he can do is block, and is slow to adjust, considering he didn't even start throwing the right uppercut against a lunging Margarito until the end of the 7th round.

    When Margarito wasn't lunging in with right hands which he was able to do without being countered for the majority of the fight, he was dominating the fight at midrange while Clottey appeared to be terribly winded, which was likely the result of the viscious body attack distributed by Margarito.

    Personally, aside from the hard, crowd pleasing combinations, that Clottey landed in the inside when he could get there, which was rare, Margarito dominated the fight, not only winning the majority of the rounds, but taking Clottey's heart away in the process.

    Clottey lost that fight because Margarito took it from him, not because of his hands.
     
  3. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    I stated the 9th rd went to Clottey when I ment the 8th. Your correct the 9th rd definitely went to Margarito. The 7th rd, by the way, was a close rd and could have gone to either way.
     
  4. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    I scored the fight a draw as is, Margarito was not a clear winner by any means, Clottey clearly took 2 rounds after the 4th on clean punching and Margarito not being active enough like in his clear rounds.

    Clottey is not overrated, or underrated. He's a decent Welterweight contender with good handspeed, a fun style to watch, solid D, but limited movement and stamina issue's. Pretty great chin also.

    The top 5 or so, should beat him.
     
  5. Beenie

    Beenie Evolve already! Full Member

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    Watched the fight again yesterday and i'm convinced that Clottey would win if they were to ever fight again.
     
  6. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So true. Clottey was whipping up on Marg until he broke his hand. It's as clear as that. He was giving Marg a boxing lesson. Marg is just lucky Clottey seriously hurt his best hand.
     
  7. Gsand

    Gsand Active Member Full Member

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    That's exactly what I thought at the time to be honest.

    Margarito was very lucky Clottey screwed his hand or he was in deep trouble...