Just watched Mayweather v Castillo I (twice)

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  1. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I didn't see any thing that Castillo did that wouldve granted him the victory. He had his moments when he had Floyd against the ropes but he wasn't landing anything effective ... all he did was throw one or two shots - then Floyd would spin him and get out of punching range.

    Castillo did an awesome job of cutting off the ring but once he got close enough - he couldn't get off anything effective.

    I scored the fight 115-111 ...

    I watched the fight the first time on mute and the second time with the volume up ... and I tell you there was a bunch of bull**** being said.

    Jim Lampley was over the top with his dramatics and was acting as if Floyd was getting hurt ... Floyd never showed hurt or fatigue ... Castillo do though allowing Floyd to hit him more and actually engage him at times in the championship rounds. In the 11th round it had surprised me when the commentators didn't give Floyd credit for fighting effectively on the inside. He was beating Castillo to the punch and was dodging most of Castillo's punches.

    In the first 1/2 of the fight Floyd controlled the temp w/ his jab and his superior movements and speed.

    Castillo was stuck finding a target ... in the middle of the fight was when Castillo was at him most effective, but nothing damaging ... just scoring.

    His fatigue started to show in the latter rounds and he was getting hit more often ... he stopped moving his head and shoulders ... he stopped throwing faints and he was just walking in ...

    It was bull**** how the HBO crew (minus Foreman) was talking all that **** about how Castillo did enough to win keep his title when it was apparent that he was more beat up ... he was fatigue ... and he was getting hit more than he was hitting.

    Anyone who thinks he won ... needs to watch that fight again on mute (if you have it ) or go to youtube and watch that **** ... but make sure you keep the volume down and pay close attention to the action.

    You would see who won the fight ... the right guy won it that night ...
     
  2. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    What was your round scoring then?

    115-111? :huh
     
  3. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    He watched it through PBF goggles :yep
     
  4. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    never seen the fight really want to jus never got round to it,but some people really claim that castillio was robed in this fight, if ya no where i can watch me can ya tell me, n was mayweather really in trouble in this fight?
     
  5. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    This one is not that controversial.

    Like Oscar-Tito, the conventional wisdom has become less debatable and most observers accept that Floyd lost the fight.

    Apparently he was a hurtin' unit that night and proved it in a decisive rematch victory.

    (How the **** did you get 115-111?)
     
  6. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    1. 10-9 Mayweather
    2. 10-9 Mayweather
    3. 10-9 Mayweather
    4. 10-9 Castillo
    5. 10-9 Mayweather
    6. 10-9 Castillo
    7. 10-9 Castillo
    8. 10-8 Mayweather (point deduction Castillo)
    9. 10-9 Castillo
    10. 9-9 even (point deduction Mayweather)
    11. 10-9 Mayweather
    12. 10-9 Mayweather

    That = 115-111 Mayweather

    I think it was bull**** in the second round that - Mayweather wasn't credited with a knockdown ...

    I think its bull**** that Drakulich didn't take another point away when Castillo had spent Mayweather then proceeded to his him while his back was turned. Spinning a fighter isn't legal ... hitting a fighter while his back was turned isn't legal.

    Castillo had his moments but thats what they were moments ... it was never clarity in rounds where he had his moments. The rounds he did win on my card were clear cut ...
     
  7. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    Tito won 115-113 on my card ... against Oscar ... Oscar needed to take the 11th and 12th rounds to come out with the victory.
     
  8. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Clear but close Castillo ud imo. 7-5 if I remember correctly.
    Floyd definately won the rematch though with one of his best performances.
     
  9. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Well I guess there's no point in us even discussing things. Clearly we have a totally different outlook on what constitutes winning a round.

    IMO oscar won 7 clear rounds, but probably 9.

    You were probably ok with Holy getting a draw against Lennox ?
     
  10. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Can't agree. You gave rounds to Mayweather where he was outlanded significantly and all the hard punches came from Castillo. Those are facts.
     
  11. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You honestly think that'll dissuade him?:D
     
  12. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
  13. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    No I wasn't cool with Lennox v Holyfield ... I thought that Lennox won the fight. Bull**** judging and reffing ...
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    The commentary was bull****, you do need to watch it on mute

    Mayweather swept the early rounds, you could easily give Mayweather the first 5 rounds, after that Castillo took most of the middle rounds but Mayweather rallyed back

    8-4 Mayweather, maybe 7-5, no way a robbery
     
  15. fitzgeraldz

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    Watch the fight over again ... if you don't believe ... I think the second fight wasn't close - despite the scores ... I think that Mayweather won more rounds in the second fight and shouldve won by a wider margin ... but how can you give a decisive score in the second fight when the official cards were by a slim margin?

    If you watch the fight on mute you would get a better understanding than just listening to the commentators.

    My scores were simmular to official scores in the first fight ... I think that Castillo didn't do enough to win convincingly.

    He had his moments but thats exactly what they were moments ... Castillo was also more beat up and apparently very fatigue after the fight.

    Floyd still showed the same energy he did when he started the fight ... Floyd was never hurt during the fight ... he landed the clearer punches and he landed more shots than Castillo did.

    Despite the compubox numbers ... you have to come up with your own perception of whats landing and whats not. It was times when Castillo dominated the round and in those rounds I gave Castillo the nod.

    I'm not being bias either because I was impressed with Castillo overall ... he had cut off the ring better than any fighter i've seen and that was a skillset that went unnoticed during the fight. Floyd did a great job of pivoting and turning Castillo.

    Floyd also mixed up his punches and threw Castillo off ... those body punches were great in the begining of the fight (on behalf of Mayweather) and he was still throwing effective body punches at the end of the fight.

    Castillo seemed really desperate when attacking the body and didn't put much committment to the punches and was just throwing them ... just like DLH was in his fight w/ Mayweather.

    I tell you this ... even though I don't think Castillo won ... and Floyd did suffer an injury ... it was his toughest fight to date.