Just watched Reid Ottke

You could well be right. We'll never know. Some say he was already in decline going into the Lacy fight. But as a bitter fanboy, i'll always believe in the possiblity that as the WBA/IBF champ he possibly wouldn't have had to travel for this fight. That Lacy wouldn't had the momentum/confidence of a champion with two successful defences under his belt; that he would've been a challenger fighting a very different, mentally sound Robin Reid.

 

honestly tho, who hasn't?

 

Should have gone to Specsavers............

It was closer than it looked, but.. Reid CLEARLY won 3/4 of the first four rounds, but was down by 3-4 at the end of the 4th. Reid could not hit Ottke because he was getting penailised. They could see that in a fair fight, Reid would have stopped Ottke or won a wide points margin.
The rounds on the cards that Reid won were the later rounds which he lost clearly, when the fight was in the bag for Ottke.

I believe Ottke won because:-

1. The first 3-4 rounds were scored really incorrectly. Something wrong.
2. Reid was warned too much for hitting and holding Ottke who was trying to spoil.
3. The genuine knockdown was ruled a slip and a deduction followed 4 point split there.
4. Reid was so frustrated that he could not even hit Ottke in the end.
5. Basically, Ottke, the judges and especially the ref were all "in on it"

There should have been a criminal investigation into that fight.

The ref Roger Tilleman was a judge at the Erdei fight last Saturday!!

 

Looks good to me..... :good

 

I think i was scoring as I knew the judges would have to based on the poor refereeing of the fight. I don't dispute that Reid was robbed, but I think I scored the fight to Ottke based on how the ref behaved more than anything Reid did/didn't do to win it, It is the fight I always direct people to when discussing robbery on the sport. Ottke certainly won the late rounds, but they were obviously a fallout from what had gone before.

 

You sound like Jim Watt.

 

To be fair...I am just graduating from casual fan status.

At that time I knew even less. I think I was trying to copy the judges rather than formulate my own ideas, so then I guess in that respect Jim Watt is a fair comparison.....but its a sore one to take.

 

I was always of the opinion that his "style" was nearly as bad to watch as Calzaghe's.

 

Don't get me wrong, its a hard thing to avoid when you think about it.

In regards to the recent fight I had Haye needing the last round against Valuev to seal the deal, and even then I thought he would get robbed. It was only when I watched it back properly that I thought "****, Haye won this way more handily than I first thought". I blame a combination of the venue (in Germany), the commentator (Jim Watt) and the beer (which leaves you more susceptible to the commentators ramblings).

 

Couldnt agree more there, sometimes its best to watch with the sound off, if you listen to some of these ****ers at the same time you score it all wrong

 

Too true, I mean, did ANYBODY who watched that in a boozer think Haye was getting the decision in Germany? I know I didn't.

 

I couldn't hear the commentry in the pub but I was running two scores. I was scoring the fight hugely to Haye as I saw it but also scoring a close fight as I thought the german judges (I mean the judges in germany) would rig it.

Jim Watt was terrible. He is paid to call the fight. By all means state what you think the judges are doing but he is there to give his reading of the fight.

As for Roger Tillerman.....

May the flee's of a thousand camels infest your starfish you TWAT!

 

I reckon Reid would probs take Lacy now though
haha