Just watched some old KT tapes

Here is the post that shows you Toopretty knows nothing about boxing.

Tszyu and Pryor are the only ones to stay at 140 and there are no good other fighters to ever fight there.

OH MY GOD.

How about names like
Nicolino Lcche
Julio C Chavez
Antonio Cervantes
Eddie Perkins
Jack The Kid Berg
Diulio Loi
Barney Ross

I rest my case about this whole argument im done with this idiot.

 

I can mention any weight division north or south and pull more great fighters. Like I said previously, most passed on through. Like Pea, Duran etc.... straight to welter. You can rest your weak ass case but it is not gods gift to boxing divisions even for the little guys.

 

HATER:thumbsup

 

Dont be mad at me that your hero is tainted with an average resume.

 

I only want to ad one thing hater Toopretty.

I dont like these fighters getting any flak.

Kostya Tszyu
Manny Pacquiao
Mike Tyson
Jeff Fenech
Marvin Hagler
Vic Darchinyan
Chris John
Nigel Benn
Isreal Vasquez
Les Darcy
Jose Luis Castillo
Roberto Duran
Ike Williams
Ken Norton
Juan Diaz

There guys i will go to bat for any day of the week.

 

The division has been around since 1922.

Myron "Pinkey" Mitchell (1922-1926)
Mushy Callahan (1926-1930)
Jackie "Kid" Berg (1930-1931)
Tony Canzoneri (1931-1932)
Johnny Jadick (1932-1933)
Battling Shaw (1933)
Tony Canzoneri (1933)
Barney Ross [1933-1935, vacates title]
Tippy Larkin [1946: vacates title; division lapses until 1959]
Carlos Ortiz (1959-1960)
Duilio Loi (1960-1962)
Eddie Perkins (1962)
Duilio Loi [1962, Loi retires 1/23/1963]
Eddie Perkins (1963-1965)
Carlos Hernandez (1965-1966)
Sandro Lopopolo (1966-1967)
Paul Fuji (1967-1968)
Nicolino Loche (1968-1972)
Alfonso "Peppermint" Frazer (1972)
Antonio Cervantes (1972-1976)
Wilfredo Benitez [1976-1979, vacates title]
Aaron Pryor (1983-1986, abandons title)
Julio Cesar Chavez 1990-1994
Frankie Randall (1994)
Julio Cesar Chavez (1994-1996)
Oscar De La Hoya (1996-1997, vacates title)
Kostya Tszyu(2001-2005)
Ricky Hatton (2005-2009)
Manny Pacquiao (2009 to date)


You suck at history.

 

TooPretty just hates irrationally...he tries to hide behind rational reasons for not giving Tszyu his dues, but all it comes out like is anger and hate.

Same for Calzaghe.

But when it comes to the likes of Hopkins, or PBF, or Taylor, or Dawson, he's all over their nuts.

I find it funny that he derides Tszyu's resume, which contains devastating wins over the likes of Judah and Mitchell, but he doesn't deride PBF for fighting these same guys, because apparently, Judah was more prime when PBF fought him, and was just a green prospect when Tszyu fought him, and Mitchell was just a 'new weight division adjuster' fight for PBF

Hopkins lost to Clinton Mitchell lol at LHW and then ran down to MW to beat on smaller guys for 15 years. His most memorable fights at MW are wins against a career WW (Trinidad) and a money-grabbing set up against DLH, and then 2 losses to Jermain Taylor, who struggled with WW Spinks, and lost twice to Pavlik, and Froch :rofl

Hopkins then moved up to LHW and cherrypicked a fight with Tarver, who was well past his best, but who recently troubled Chad Dawson!!! Lordy days!!! He then lost to Calzaghe

PBF went the distance with DLH, and took 10 rounds to KO Hatton, while it only took Pacman 8 rds and 2 rds resepctively to dispose of the same opponents.

My goodness, are any of the guys TooPretty cheerleads for actually any good?

Oh well, a world of boxing experts and boxers can't be wrong when they hold Tszyu in such high regard, but TooPretty can always be wrong, as he continually proves on here :yep

 

Now, do the same thing with Lightweight and Welterweight. I guarantee by any stretch of the imagination the greater fighters historically will be in those divisions and not by a small margin but by a long shot. And to Mutt. I am irrational but my argument is not. None of you have proven anything. You dodge the reality. I dont even mention fighters like Judah and Mitchell(for god sakes) on Floyd's resume. They are opponents he is criticized for fighting but they happen to be the very same two fighters that Tszyu defeated to unify his titles. You extract them from either guys resume and Floyd still has a good shot at claiming to be top three in superfeather history but can Kosta claim the same at 140. You guys have to play around and distort reality b/c that is your boy. I am no die hard fan of Kosta and I rate him for his ability and potential head to head match ups. But you cant defend his resume. It is not equal to the caliber of fighter that you say he is. That is not "the greatest at 140" type of resume.

 

I think the facts have been provided enough times to prove that KT's resume at 140 is comparable to any other ATG in any other division.

It's only your biased opinion that claims otherwise. You really should make up your mind as to which approach you are taking - your previous post implies that KT isn't great because he never moved up to higher divisions, now you're back to claiming his opponents at 140 were lacking in quality. Your 3rd angle is his losses to Phillips and Hatton.

No smoke and mirrors here, just facts, facts that you continue to deny based on your irrational opinion.

Why don't you breakdown PBFs resume, and show us all what a TRUE ATG's resume looks like? I'd also like to see exactly what great things he's done since he moved up from 135.

Please do.

 

I am no die hard fan of Kosta and I rate him for his ability and potential head to head match ups

Which you just can't do in a historical argument - You can only rank someone based on achievement and against those they fought against at the time.

I suppose Carlos Monzon is a **** middleweight becuase two of his signature wins were against Griffith?

I guess Hopkins is a crap middleweight cause he really only beat "name" fighters that were smaller?

See you at Tszyu's HoF induction.

 

He beat the top two fighters on Kosta's resume...... after 135. :rofl. Unless the version of Chavez he fought was the goods. Or Urkal was a world beater and got stopped by Vivian Harris. Oh, let me guess its b/c Tszyu knocked the skill out of him first. Or better yet, Ben Tackie.

 

Who says Judah and Mitchell are the top 2 fighters on Tszyu's resume?

I decided to breakdown PBF's career because I know you're too cowardly too:

Names of note @ 130:

Genaro Hernandez - 32 years old, retired after this fight

Diego Corrales - gets big wraps because of his 2 wars with Castillo

Names of note at 135:

Jose Luis Castillo - had 4 losses to nobodies on his resume before this fight

Names of note above 135:

Gatti - a punchdrunk brawler

Mitchell - Mitchell's second fight at 147 after a career at 140 and recently being destroyed by Tszyu

Judah - went the distance, depsite the fact that Judah already had 3 losses to his name against Tszyu, Spinks and Baldomir

Baldomir - the guy who won the lottery by becoming the mandatory defence of a guy who is incapable of paying anough attention to read a Golden Book in one sitting (Judah)

DLH - $$$ fight - went the distance and was a SD result.

Hatton - @147, not 140 - at least Pacman had the guts to fight Hatton at his best weight, and was therefore able to take his lineal 140lb crown.

Really, while PBF displays great skills, his resume is pissweak and cherrypicked to the max.

 

Oh you forgot Floyd defeated..Gregorio Vargas..KNOCKED out Tackie(whom is on Tszyu's highlight reel of tough opt) Prior too might I add. Jesus Chavez....went on to become champ at super feather. Corrales went on to become champ at 130 and 135 and was undefeated p4p ranked fighter. Castillo ..I cant even keep it up. This is not even worth the effort. As I said previously the only two fighters to go on and prove they were quality was Zab..he became welter champ. Meanwhile on the other side of town fighters on Floyds resume went on to be the top of the division once he left. Not nayer one of kosta's guys did that.....except Zab oh and Hurtado... wow. You are fighting with cap guns.

 

Vargas? The guy who already had 6 losses when he fought Floyd? :rofl

TACKIE?!? Really? When did he KNOCK OUT Tackie? Tackie has NEVER been knocked out, and PBF NEVER fought him.

Corrales? The guy who beat Roberto Garcia for the 130lb title? Who did Garcia beat to make Corrales win over him so meaningful? What did Garcia go on to achieve after Corrales beat him? A loss to Ben Tackie and Joel Casemayor?

Castillo? The guy who already had losses to Alvarez, Jauregui (x2) and Soto when he fought Floyd? The guy who beat little Stevie Johnston by MD for the 135lb title? Who did Johnston beat to make Castillo's win over him so meaningful? Manfredy?

Chavez? But he already had a loss to Carlos Gerena when he fought Floyd! And he went on to beat Sirimongkol Singwancha for the SFW title!

Tell me why Tszyu's resume is so weak, when the resumes of the people Floyd beat are weak? Why are they such big names on his resume when they never went on to unify their divisions, or beat anyone of note either before or after they lost to PBF?

I know you can't keep up, because you are full of ****, bop gun daddy.

Now you're clinging to 'what they went on to achieve'

What other criteria are you going to flipflop back and forth to to try and justify your irratinal dislike of Tszyu?

Face it TooPretty, it's your dislike of non-black fighters that prevents you from accepting Tszyu's greatness. I just wish you'd have the balls to be honest about it, instead of trying to hide behind the pretence of rationality.