... I've come to the conclusion that most, if not all heavyweights would have not made it out of that round. I've seen most guys chins and I can't come up with a guy that would have survived. That first KD in the round was fuccing brutal. What a shot. Say what you want about Samuel Peter... bottom line is that he survived that onslaught which happened in the beginning of the round. Not only that, we completely outboxed McCline after being hurt like that. Not too shabby when you re-evaluate.
he also learned a lesson not to take anybody too lightly and that he isn't head and heals above everybody. He must have been on ESB and read the posts that you Zackman, Amsterdam,fourtyonce and a few others were writing about him. He must have thought he was unbeatable if he read some of those things.
Toney has a great chin and slips punches so well, but I'm not sure he would have survived that. :think
A lot of people underestimate Mccline but all his problems are all mental problems i think when he put his mental problems away he can definitly bang look at his body (real or not real) 6'6 and 260+ pounds is there not even the rumour that Mccline knocked out the legendary "Good times" Lennox Lewis in sparring out.
swedeone you are correct. but i must say the hooks and uppercuts indicated he can be hurt. it seems peter is immune to straight right hands to the nose and forehead area. (well to me i've always thought fighters are weaker verses certain types of punches than others) he'll need to be even fitter than he was in the wlad fight to have a punchers chance in rematch. if not wladiimir or even oleg will use many hooks and uppercuts to see if they can replicate mccllnes results. i believe if peter had come into the wladimir fight at 250, we would not be talking about peter still. with peter's shortness compared to some other heavies he really needs to incorporate the duck and weave to increase his chances significantly. can he? will he? only time will tell. p.s. on a side note anyone notice the miscommunication between peter and jim gray? "it was pure guts" - gray "excuse me!?!" - peter "pure guts... you know, pure heart" - gray "oooh! right! yeah it was" - peter (while thinking for a moment that gray was saying it was his gut that caused the knock downs :rofl :rofl )
The second knockdown was a massive right hand that caught him flush on the chin when he didn't see it coming. I'm surprised he survived that...
Those were real good punches, I think that Peter still has a hell of a chin. However, Mcline really poor stamina and lack of a killer instinct saved him, more than anything. I'd say any top 10 heavyweight would have finished him.
Other fighters would of finished Peter. Mccline fights scared and passive, it is not his nature to load up on power shots. Look how severely he hurt Peter. But Mccline stopped throwing power punches after the midrounds , and was exhausted breathing with his mouth wide open. You have to wonder why Mccline ababonded the uppercut after it led to two KD's ?
The only thing Wlad has to do with this thread is that he would have been stopped by the shots McCline landed on Peter. That is without question. :yep
Wlad isnt a slow one dimenisional boxer though, that is easy to hit. Mccline is very conservative about throwing power punches, he is timid in the ring. For Mccline to almost Ko someone, you really have to be asking to get hit! Because Mccline will not let his hands go.