Just watched the 3rd round again and...

why? Wlad has been on the canvas as much as anybody and has gotten up many times as well.

 

Sure, it is . But Peter is really going to have to depend on his chin as he starts fighting real HW's ( not Toney, or Jermery Williams) becuase he is so easy to hit! Being that critically hurt by Mccline and nearly stopped is not a good sign. That and he could not hurt Mccline, I didnt see him hurt once. That is what Peter depends on power, and chin!! And they may of been over-estimated.

 

Well, Waldo has a better chin than some real china chins.

However he grabbed Sam ALOT in that fight. Just as McCline grabbed Sam ALOT this past saturday.

I have no doubts in my head about the holding. Had the refs done their job, points would have been taken or at the very least, warnings would have been dished out. Waldo was KO'd by Brewster because the ref Robert Byrd denied Waldo any sort of crutch. He wouldn't let him hold or lean on Brewster, forcing Waldo to fight and eventually get knocked out.

It's also a two way street. It would make the fight more interesting and at the same time more competitive. The clinch IS the crutch of the big men and it needs to go.

 

That's funny considering he shut McCline down completely and dominated him. Your Sam Peter ball licking is just as bad as Showtimes.

 

Man you don't know **** do you. The FIRST top 10 guy Peter faced had him hurt bad in the 12th round and the SECOND guy (top 25) had him almost out in the 2nd round. You're bias is very clear here.

 

toney would not have got hit with those type of punches in the 1st place.peter jaw is iron he took some greats hots flush.i mean he was taking combos punches on the jaw and in the face by 266 pd mccline.

i aint gone say **** about his draw, but peter cant take shots like that all night or he would go to sleep.

wald will fight peter to safe i think jab and clinch so i dont think he would ko peter.maybe in the last rd he might hurt him again but wald would not go for the finnish, now vitali his a different guy i think he would stop peter if he got him hurt.

 

You are wrong. MOST top 10 HWs wouldn't have been completely defenseless against McCline, and wouldn't have gotten hit with those shots in the first place.

 

True story.

 

There are all kinds of heavyweights who could just altogether avoid being caught with anything serious by McCline, and some who could simply take it. Most of the heavyweights in the top 20 would not have had such wide-open defenses and gotten their faces beaten to mush by an over-the-hill average contender like McCline, and a few could have simply stood up to it. You think Jameel McCline would've hit David Tua harder than Lewis, Ibeabuchi, etc. did? McCline was never a monstrous offensive fighter even in his prime, and now he's an overweight, rusty 37-year-old. It is pretty impressive that Peter survived and came back to win, but it is a huge stroke against him and the idea of his being #2 in the world that he was A., caught so often and so easily by an old, sluggish ex-contender like McCline, and B. hurt so easily by him.

 

Most of the decent heavyweights would also never get caught by so many flush shots from slow McCline

 

If Sam Peter showed as much heart in training as he did you that 3rd round, he would now be the undisputed champion of the world. If he took the time to get in boxing shape he would have been able to finish off Klitschko when he had him in trouble. If he improved his skills just slightly he would not take so many hits.

 

McCline isn't slow...for a very big man, he has decent hand speed, and is rather athletic.

 

i think toney took harder shots against peter than peter did against mccline

but you never know i guess.

 

This fight showed Peter can be badly hurt by uppercuts. Because he's short for a heavy with practically no neck straight rights and hooks aren't nearly as effective since they are less likely to land flush.

Wlad hardly threw any uppercuts at all when they fought. Mcline gave Peter's next opponents a blueprint to beat him.