just watched Tyson - Bruno 2...

Yeah he had lost a yard of speed and his explosiveness even his balance wasn't as good
Maybe the hunger that drove him had gone

 

Nearly 20 years of hindsight...

Tyson looked back at the top of his game going into the first Holyfield fight.

But after Tyson/Douglas I made a conscious effort to never assume a fighter is 'unbeatable' again. So I picked Evander over Tyson, even if I was not that confident. And it looked a brilliant pick, and I make sure not to mention to anyone I also picked The Bomber over Leg Iron too...

 

We also tend to forget sportsmen in a range of sports peak earlier than others for lots of reasons eg mentally what is next when you have attained all your goals your world champ.....didn't give you the satisfaction you thought it would? what's next same again.??

 

Boxing is the only sport that people argue about people's peaks. Michael Jordan was not as good in his later years. Same with guys like George best. This is not golf, a simple watching tells you everything. Roy jones is exactly the same.

 

yep every one declines with age and you can't beat nature,but what I mean is some people's best days are behind them at 18.....early20s and many are in capable of fulfilling early promise or decline rapidly when they have achieved their goals.

 

When did Paul McCartney die?

 

LOL, I think mrbassie is showing his age.

There was a rumour going around in the late 60s that McCartney had died. And a conspiracy built up around that rumour. I am sure there is plenty of stuff on the net if you want to look into it further.

 

Nah, was just ****ing around mate. Thanks for the background info though :good

 

Did he? Were the ruddock fights not before that? He was clearly faded and the timing had gone if I recall correctly. People were willing Tyson to be the same fighter but he'd peaked in 1988.

 

The night Frank crossed himself numerous times as he walked to ring.

 

He lost fours years of boxing career,he was never gonna be the same after that..

 

Exactly, that is my point, we are using nearly 20 years of hindsight. In 96 plenty were willing to buy into Tyson being as good as ever. And on the 'evidence' of the Bruno and Seldon bouts, they felt they had a point. Thus Holyfield was 24/1 against when he fought Tyson.

 

Yeah fair enough

For me the ruddock fights proved he'd lost it, and become 'mortal' but it was a question of whether that was shaking off the rust

We've seen it time and again, you move from your original team and become a circus, you go downhill, I followed Tyson from the Berbick fight and he was on the slide before prison