Two guys, trying to beat the **** out of each other for a living, looks like two guys trying to beat the **** out of each other, if you impose any sort of sexual intent on that, you probably are a ******.
I dont consider boxing or ufc gay, I just wish ufc would be more stand up so I could actually get into the fight. When two fighters are on the ground doing practically nothing its pretty hard to watch, just like excessive holding in boxing. The only difference between the too is usually a ref breaks the hold in boxing pretty quick, while in ufc I seen more than 2 minutes go by before they stand them back up.
Well if you count ***gots fantasies, such as you fantasizing about ball grabbing, which did not take place, then yea, I could see how it would look gay.
the worst part of the whole event was that cocky **** Bisping getting a gift decison against Hamill. Robbery. And then Bisping has the nerve to run his mouth and say Hamill should go back to wrestling, after clearly getting beat. It makes me sick. I dont understand how Cecil Peoples is still allowed to judge fights. The funny thing is MMA fans all talk **** about boxing for having bad decisions. Now they are all saying "MMA is turning into boxing, Dana White is Don King." As if they didnt have controversial decisions in MMA before last night. The broadcast had way too many commercials too.
And I'm saying it's a ridiculous criticism, in the same way it's a ridiculous criticism if someone says boxing looks gay because the guys hug each other. So, is your aversion to the groundwork in MMA simply because it looks "gay", or because you just don't find it particularly entertaining? If it's the latter, why don't you just say so instead of trying to throw a red herring into the argument by constantly bringing up the gay thing. You acknowledged that there isn't any gay intent on the part of the fighters, so that fact that it looks gay to you is your problem. It has nothing to do with the quality of the sport, or it's entertainment value. If a boxing hater came to this site and went on about how boxers look gay in the clinches, he'd get shouted and/or laughed off the board. Why? Because it's a stupid criticism. And in regards to MMA groundwork, it's only brought up because some boxing fans/MMA haters feel the need to totally degrade the sport instead of just saying they don't like it, and then moving on. Most likely a reaction to its surge in popularity.
I understand they want to keep there fighter on the ground and its part of there plan but its boring, most ufc fans would even say that. John Ruiz is one of the worst fighters to watch because he excessively holds I understand that it helps in the ring thats why hes been an off an on champ for the last 6 years, but hes not fan pleasing people want to see action.
UFC will NEVER, repeat NEVER have the history and glory of the sweet science. In fact, it is likely a fad that will be gone as quickly as hula hoops and bell-bottoms. Why? Because when you get past all the hype, two guys rolling around on the ground IS boring. :nod In fact, it's not just boring, it's EXTREMELY boring. That's why they gotta dress it up with all the WWF-style macho hype!!:yep
It explains alot that the whole of your understanding of the ground game is "keeping their fighter on the ground", and obviously most MMA fans do not think it is boring, just **** for brains losers who don't understand anything than punching.
MMA has been around, just not in the same form as it is today and certainly not with the same popularity. I highly doubt as well that it will ever surpass boxing, but I don't really care either way. And I don't think it's going anywhere. People like combat sports. I think it's great that they now have so many different ones to choose from, including boxing. Boring to you, yes. But many other people disagree, and see it as a very technical and physically demanding activity. Hence the surge in popularlity of MMA. And you've made this claim before about the WWF-style macho hype, so perhaps you could provide some examples since I follow both sports, and WWF-style hype seems more prevalent in boxing. The ring entrances are far more like WWF in boxing, the pushing matches at weigh ins also reek of WWF, and the pre-fight trash talk is definitely no worse than the pre-fight trash talk in UFC.
