Just watched Vitali vs Chris Byrd

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  1. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    After seeing the way some people talk about this I mean you would think Byrd did nothing and Klitschko just quit. I feel some of Klitschkos arrogance and spirit was taken from him that night and Byrds determination and walking Klitschko down in the last few rounds and his counters were discouraging for Klitschko. I mean the injury was just his way out. Byrd was walking him down real good in the last few rounds of the fight and it was still 3 more to go. Klitschko knew the momentum was with Byrd and he didnt want to look bad and possibly get hurt by this guy so he quit. Give Byrd credit. boxing is boxing whatever happens happens. its only what happens or doesnt happen and Byrd beat Klitschko on that night and it should go down in history and on the record of one of the atg heavyweights (Klitschko) that he did in fact lose to a determined and spirited and religious man named Chris Byrd.
     
  2. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a legit injury and official medical records were presented. I'm not going to fault a guy for dropping out of a fight with a torn rotator cuff, which is a potentially career-ending injury, just ask any major league pitcher or NFL quarterback. It's what a smart guy would have done.


    Aggravating a torn rotator cuff by trying to complete a fight can actually have far more severe consequences for a boxing career than the Lewis "face-rip" injury. Vitali was also leading comfortably in that fight so he wasn't using the injury as an exit strategy.


    Anyway, the brothers are content with family vengeance. Everyone who has beaten one of them is brutallized by the other brother, except Lewis who retired. This type of family vengeance seems to suffice for them.


    It is my personal opinion that fights such as this, which end by an injury not actually caused by blows like dislocated knees, torn rotator cuffs, torn knee ligaments, should be ruled a no-contest assuming official medical evidence of the injury and its severity is presented. It souldn't be a TKO, but that's just my opinion.
     
  3. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bring on the excuses
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vitali pummeled Byrd for the most part and history shows it was smart move to quit as he today is sstill champ and is pounding whats left of the division more than Byrd has to show for

    however i do respect byrd for what he did but saying he was winning and he alone made him quit is foolish
     
  5. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aggravating a torn rotator cuff by trying to complete a fight can actually have far more severe consequences for a boxing career than the Lewis "face-rip" injury. Vitali was also leading comfortably in that fight so he wasn't using the injury as an exit strategy.
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    hey different circumstances... vitali had already quit and was labelled as a quitter now. He had something to prove. this was for THE heavyweight championship of the world. he knows how big of a name lewis is. he knows what this fight means. of course hes willing to go to the extreme now that he has something to prove. plus vitalis not a very pretty man anyways so he can afford some scars around his eyes.

    yeah he was leading but in the post fight interview Vitali said he thought he was behind on points.
     
  6. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    hey im saying he alone didnt your right he was injured. but hey man... this is boxing... fighters through history have won with broken hands. with broken jaws. thats why its called fighting. your suppose to fight through rough circumstances and find the way to win. why use that for an excuse for him??
     
  7. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Please. Just because Byrd won two rounds, and barely landing anything you think someone who wanted to fight on against a massive puncher like Lewis with a bloody mess face would quit???

    Vitali was always brittle with injuries and he is an educated man who thinks and doesn't just decide out of macho bravado. Difficult decision to make, but he probably wouldn't be fighting now if he had continued.

    And what the **** does religion have to do with that? Too many times, religion deludes boxers into continuing their careers past their primes or believing God grants them special favors in a boxing match. Byrd "prayed" over his decision to fight on when everybody could see that he shoudn't.
     
  8. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    boxing is based on drama and a connection with the audience.

    vitali pummeled byrd for the most part. no. byrd was never wobbled by ANY shots from vitali. byrd took them all well and still kept coming and was never discouraged.
     
  9. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    I give Byrd all the credit in the world- he gutted it out and found a way to win.

    But it was a legit injury, and Vitali was smart to quit.

    The two things are true at the same time.
     
  10. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can throw a punch with a broken hand. You can't even move your arm right with a torn rotator cuff. A broken hand or jaw doesn't directly affect your coordination.
     
  11. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    rewatch the fight. byrd landed his share of punches and clean counters.
    and yes he wanted to go on because the lewis victory means more than a byrd victory and because lewis was hurt too and it was a dramatic moment plus like i said klitschko hada lot to prove after quitting.

    it doesnt have to do with macho bravado it has to do with what you have inside of you truly inside of you. he probably wouldnt be fighting now? how would you know that. stop with the damn feeling sorry for klitschko ****.

    yeah ok stereotyping holyfield niiiiice. and what about mayweather? hes very religious. what about pacquiao?
     
  12. liljp361

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    your right it definitley was smart.. but theres many other people who would have gone on i mean it was only a few rounds... who the **** quits on their stool and gets a pass? why the hell does he get a pass for this **** and other boxers dont
     
  13. liljp361

    liljp361 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    like youve ever suffered any of these injurys before and you would ****ing know what its like. a broken hand would hurt so much to hit with and hey while we seem to be at it with the excuses think about it. dont you need your hands for fighting? cant you severely damage your hands and not be able to use them anymore?

    oh right a broken jaw wont affect you mentally either right but a torn rotator cuff ****s with your coordination? cmon give me a break he still has his ****in legs... its klitschkos fault if he cant fight going backwards!! you find a way to win you make adjustments
     
  14. Cachibatches

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    I give all boxers the benefit of the doubt regarding injury. I am not the one taking the punches.

    In any event, I argue that Byrd is a great fighter- a super middle who beat some good heavies. Vitali can still get there, but he has to give up his idea of retiring this year and fight on a couple more. Right now, I have Byrd pretty high as a pound per pound fighter, and Vitali down aroudn the Floyd Patterson-Ken Norton-Joe Walcott level.

    Just my oppinions.
     
  15. MaliBua

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    Roberto Duran DID QUIT on his stool because he was getting his ass kicked. And guy is getting pass. IMO vitlai shouldn't have quit but maybe he knew better..