K1...DO SOME K1 GUYS PUNCH HARDER then MANY TOP HEAVYWEIGHT BOXERS

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    When I look at Overeem and Saki for talent alone, I think K1 might have better heavies physically. Heavyweight boxing is poor physically. Outside of Wlad, Vitali and Haye, I am not really impressed.

    I don't think these guys punch like top boxers. The format encourages a devastating approach.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Boom. Look at how short the fights are. Do you think a behemoth like Overeem could survive 12 rounds? Not even remotely possible. The rounds are much shorter and so are the fights. But like you say the better raw talent vs the heavys in boxing is in the K1.
     
  3. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The lack of defense/chin resistance and short rounds make for more knockouts. HW boxing still has more talent IMO, but that is completely subjective since they are two different sports.
     
  4. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    :deal
     
  5. moreorless

    moreorless Active Member Full Member

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    Defence is more of an issue than physical chin I'd say, kickboxing naturally leads to a more open aggresive game with a greater posibility of being caught off balance.
     
  6. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, but guys are getting knocked out by jabs.

    I like K-1 so this isn't really an issue and it only makes fights more exciting, but guys like Hari, Overeem, Zimmerman, Le Banner and even Bonjansky and Schilt have questionable punch resistance. I'm surprised that Karaev is still alive after all those devastating KOs.
     
  7. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I really do enjoy K1, I just wish it was more popular, it's very hard to follow.
     
  8. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WRONG......


    first yes in traditonal muay thai they dont move their heads much
    but there is still some head movement like slips

    NOW dutch kickboxers/thai etc
    are not tradional muay thai at all, they move their quite a lot, they punch 5 times more then the thai's do

    its more of a mix between boxing and muay thai...with a bit of karate thrown in
     
  9. Kid Dynamite

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    Peter Aerts has a pretty good jaw, but his boxing defence is pretty bad. He's wide open and that also explains why Hari could get to him that early or why he lost to guys like Abidi, Bernardo, Kyotaro. He eats too many punches.

    Bernardo had devastating punches with left and right, always threw with very bad intentions.
    Sefo had a heavy punch as well, Mo, Hunt, Le Banner.

    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x348v1_ray-sefo-vs-mike-bernardo_sport

    Mo is the classic Samoan power puncher;

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVgq5aVXr8s[/ame]

    Le Banner;

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scsr3WEMe8Q[/ame]
     
  10. Black2023

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    As a whole Overeem would walk trough many top level boxers.
     
  11. highguard

    highguard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well yeah the fact that they shorter fights leads to being aggressive ofcourse

    and overeem i doubt that he could last 12 rounds and he would not walk through
    many top fighters boxers in a boxing match....well he could always land a lucky shot
    just like a boxer could land that lucky shot against him in a k1 fight....

    but in general the guy fighting under his rules wins,


    all that being said, this guy is a monster and might just be the toughest guy in the world ...watch him in k1, mma, and even doing strong man training...WOW


    so i am a huge fan but the k1 was gift wrapped to him,

    fighting an injuried saki, who i am not sure he would beat, also daniel gita from romania might have beaten him too, both saki and gita are amazing

    and an a beat up arets in the final....


    sometimes luck is on your side


    but anyways he seems like a great guy, if anyone deserves luck on his side
    why not him
     
  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    What exactly are you basing this on? Do you actually think under Queensbury rules Overeem would stand a chance even with the likes of Samuel Peter?
     
  13. lefe

    lefe Active Member Full Member

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    Ray Sefo boxing match
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6RNjOVylos[/ame]
     
  14. lefe

    lefe Active Member Full Member

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    Mighty Mo vs 40 years old lower class boxer
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRC6NFRnfCE[/ame]
     
  15. Kid Dynamite

    Kid Dynamite Member Full Member

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    Chester has a pretty good record; 16 wins with 11 KO's. Only lost once by KO to Tony Tompson. Sefo got caught, but I'd say Chester is not just a random bum as people might think he is.