K2 and the contracts offered to various fighters......

Posted this elsewhere, guess now's a good time to expand on it a little.
Below is a list of boxers who have had trouble negotiating with the Klitschkos:

Tua - "Lowball offer"
http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=31461

Toney - "Chump Change"
http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/2...FIGHT-KLITSCHKO-WLAD-TO-RETURN-ON-NOVEMBER-11-

Dimitrenko - "Mutual benificial terms, not those being offered by K2"
http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=31865

Adamek - "The Klitschko brothers offer their opponents little money. If they want to fight me and offer the right amount of money, I will fight them."
http://blackathlete.net/artman2/publ...The_Rock.shtml

Lennox Lewis -
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing...-Interview.php
Lewis: At one time, we tried to make this fight and his promoter was lying to the Klitschko brothers and overpriced himself trying to get extra money. I feel good and confident about the fight and I am ready to go.

Maybe they learned from an old promoter eh?

Mormeck - asking for "too much money" -
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=25176&more=1

Haye - "contract an utter joke"
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=19316&more=1

Povetkin - "Slave Contract"
http://www.***********.com/?m=show&id=29484

Valuev - "Conditions which were offered by Vitali which didn't satisfy my promoters or me"
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/qa-nikolay-valuev-54147

Chisora - signing a 3 fight deal he was "told to keep silent about"
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=25536&more=1

Byrd - "This is crazy"
http://www.fighthype.com/community/index.php?showtopic=25890&pid=489035&st=0&#entry489035

Briggs 2006 - "Shelly Finkel and Wladimir Klitschko @$#@$#ed me, The contract that they sent me to fight Wlad was so thick and had so much red tape that it would have put me into slavery."
http://ringsidereport.com/?p=1136

Solis - “The offer we got from the Klitschko side are not what we have been expecting. In addition they don’t want to comply to any of our requests. We have made a counter offer but so far they didn’t respond to that"
http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/solis-camp-rips-klitschko-71602

Fury - “The thing is with the Klitschkos, yeah, it’s all their way or no way. They want to give me peanuts to fight, them, yeah, they want it in Germany, they want options on me. They want everything — they want it all their own way. So why would I do that?"

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So are they cowards? Should they be grateful? Are they fools for passing up a great opportunity?
Or are they looking at the K2 contracts and thinking "Is this a joke?".

Discuss.

*Edited to add Chris Byrd, Briggs, Solis, Fury

 

Come on Marry, even Don King's looking at this and thinking "damn......."

 

Obviously they're not though are they? Now ask yourself why? "Happy to fight K2 without doing ****" isn't an answer, "cheap excuses" when you have TEN fighters complaining isn't an answer.

Has any other promotion in the history of a division had this much trouble negotiating with fighters? I don't think so, surely that means something?

Oh and those guys who haven't done **** are more worthy than a lot of other fighters who got their shot and "haven't done ****".:good

 

Just added, Chris Byrd, does this sound fair to you?

“Like I said, the politics and business of boxing, it was a great time in my boxing career to win the title but then I had to go with the business and politics of boxing. Really, if you’re not at the top level and going through stuff, you really don’t know what’s going on behind the backdoor with negotiating and how they plan and want to put people in certain situations. It wasn’t for me to be WBO champion at that time, so of course, from the fight with Vitali to Wladimir there was so much negotiating that was going on that was terrible. It wasn’t in my favor and they forced me to fight Wladimir in my very next fight. It wasn’t really deserved, I don’t think and I waited. He had two fights and an exhibition in that whole time. They wouldn’t allow me to have an exhibition or do nothing. I mean, he had an exhibition like three weeks before we fought and I’m like, ‘This is crazy’. But the Germans were the lead promoters and that’s their fighter, and when you understand what goes on, like I said with the business side and the business decisions, which favors the Germans so I was told I still have to fight. I go in and fight, he beat me really bad—I mean it was bad. More power to him.”

 

Brilliant post, coherent and deep.

 

Career high money, so what? Title shots are almost always career high paydays. If it's much less than they're expecting for a shot then obviously they'll have problems.

Haye 50/50 split, sure, but no options? I call bull****. There's no way K2 would allow the possibility of Haye walking off with the belts without Wlad at least having a rematch clause.

The contract was always an issue with Povetkin, read this:

Povetkin's promoters Sauerland Event called the bout agreement received from Klitschko a "slave contract." Povetkin's manager sent some of the details to Russian boxing journalist Alexander Pavlov. Pavlov detailed some of the items that caused friction between Sauerland and Klitschko.

1. Povetkin has to visit (maybe more than one) joint or separate press conferences, participate in press trips, interviews, open training sessions and other public events as prescribed by K2 Promotions [Klitschkos' promotional company].

2. If Povetkin does not appear on one of the press events organized by K2, K2 will fine him the amount of at least $250,000 dollars.

3. K2 refuses to pay for relocation expenses, hotel accommodations, meals and transportation to and from the fight location, etc.

4. K2 refuses to provide health insurance for the duration of the fight and commits Povetkin to bear all of the costs of all medical expenses in treating injuries that he may receive in the fight.

5. Povetkin has to use the gloves provided by K2, from the company Grant. Povetkin is not allowed to bring his own gloves even in an unopened package or use gloves by any company other than Grant.

All Atlas ever said was Povetkin wasn't ready and needed more fights.

 

http://www.boxnews.com.ua/en/news/7...hko-vs-Povetkin-Contract-Details-are-Revealeddeal:deal

 

Isn't that the same interview where Mormeck states:

"I gave him a counter proposal but he did not accept it because he thought I was being too greedy"