K2 and the contracts offered to various fighters......

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  1. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what promoter doesn't try to cover their asses, the brother intimidation factor shouldn't be an issue....if you want to be #1 you have to beat both anyway....unless you let time do that for you(Vitali)

    imho, if there is a fighter right now that could outbox Wlad twice in a row, he would have the talent to be heavily favored over Vitali....this contract gives you a straight shot to the lineal title
     
  2. Jack

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    "Goossen and Don King are taking $700,000 of the $2.8 million that James Toney is earning for the Hasim Rahman fight"

    From a link, talking about how much he was paying his promoters at the time. Bare in mind, that he'd still have to give away of the $1.8m too, before anyone makes any wrong assumptions.

    I agree that Toney has a poor resume at heavyweight but $2.8m was obviously his value at the time. Maybe he was a draw? I don't know, but there is no way a promoter has ever paid a guy more than what they're worth, so when he got paid $2.8m, it's because he was worth every cent.

    No matter what you think, you don't go from one world title shot and earn $2.8m, to another where you earn $1.5m, against a bigger draw. It's illogical. Klitschko is a much bigger draw than Rahman and the fight would have made more money, so why would Toney get paid less? It doesn't make sense.
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See what I mean, one minute it's arguing and :rofl:lol: bull****

    "Toney's a name but ain't close to a draw",
    "When has he got more then 1.5 million in the heavyweight division? Matter of fact what he done really in the heavyweight division besides using steriods to beat Ruiz?"

    then when evidence is presented it's

    "then that's over pricing"

    I believe this is the source don't know I can't open it offshore:
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  4. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    in my scenario, would you say "waa waaa" im gonna have my best freind fight you? or would you be thinking we will be closer to one champ so who cares
     
  5. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And to be dictated to into your 3rd fight, not earning an easy payday? Having to fight in Germany 3 times even if you're the undisputed champion? Are you for real?

    What if the fighter doesn't want to face Vitali? What if he wants and opponent of his choice in his own country, he's earned at least that by beating Wlad twice!
     
  6. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How many times in modern boxing history has a fighter fought the top 2 fighters in a division 3 times in a row whilst earning the smallest amount and not in his own country?:think and we'd be no closer to one champion, aslong as Haye has issues.
     
  7. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i agree and disagree i guess.....i mean yea if you beat Wlad twice you definately deserve a rest, but who is going to prepare you better for Vitali than the two fights with Wlad? who else would there be to fight? the fans wouldn't want any other match up

    in Haye's case, i think the money maker for the third fight showdown would be in Germany

    with Chisora, its debatable whether he would make more unifying with Haye in London....or fighting the third fight in Germany v Vitali after beating Wlad twice
     
  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on.
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just feel the guy should be allowed to make his own path after a rematch.

    Look at it this way, Chisora would have to fight his mandatory within a year and in that time Vitali or Wlad would have worked themselves into that position anyway.
     
  10. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so the addition of Vitali to the contract is:

    with respect to Chisora.....unfair

    with respect to K2...........smart business
     
  11. millertime1367

    millertime1367 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    boxingfan, the contracts don't bother me...i met the Klitschko's in LA, i'm a fan, don't want to see them loose

    also, if Chisora didn't want to fight Vitali, he wouldn't have signed the contract

    obviously, Chisora has the confidence to see the light at the end of a three fight tunnel...he knows the money he would make as the heavyweight king if he won all three fights

    i also feel that most of the guys on your list don't believe they could best a Klitschko 1 time, let alone 3....so they don't sign
     
  12. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Deserved? There is no such thing as entitlement in business. He turned it down because he was lead to believe he could do better and that certainly did not turn out that way for him. I doubt he got anywhere near that amount for his next 2 fights.
     
  13. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say a three fight deal for any boxer is unfair, it's setting a precedent that others might follow. I will agree though that's it's smart business by K2, thing is their voluntary defences will be against lesser oposition aslong as fans are willing to pay and they are offering bottom end deals.

    It astounds me that anyone would pay to see Wlad - Chisora but that's just my opinion, I can't argue the fact it will sell good.
     
  14. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He turned it down because he got $2.8 million the fight before for Rahman.

    He got $1.1 million for facing Peter in his WBC title elimenator!!
    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=2722935
     
  15. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If managers or promoters are reading this, I'm sure they're laughing at the ignorance...

    3 fight deals or (options on 3 fights) for non-mandatories is common practice.

    What isn't common is to specify which boxer a guy will need to face in the third fight of the deal, besides the initial fight and the rematch.